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Old 05-11-2004, 10:35 AM
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I didn't say fungus evolved from animal...
I said that it was closer to animal than plant

now your not paying attention.

ahh.. but the eyes of all animals have the same genetic triggering mecanism in the Hox gene series. Therefore the similarity does have a faint genetic basis.... Its all in the DNA

Resus Monkies cant interbreed with Gorillas... thier diferent Genera... Thats not how evolution works...
I think you are missing a fundimental concept in evolutionary theory...

the reason that Horses and say Zebras can interbreed is that they are within the same genera (Equis equis and Equis Burchelli respectively) and genetically close enough to one another to allow it to happin. They aren't genetically close enough though to allow such a hybrid to be fertile...

Gorilla and Resus are totaly different. Different genera, and eaven different familiy (Gorillia gorilla, fam. Pongidae compaired to Macaca mulatta fam Cercoptihecidae) Thereby makeing such a union genetically impossible.

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But I 'm aware about universal legends and the fact some entities come out of stones
I took this as an implication that you considered Uktena one of these legends.

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I didn't say fungus evolved from animal...
I said that it was closer to animal than plant

now your not paying attention.

ahh.. but the eyes of all animals have the same genetic triggering mecanism in the Hox gene series. Therefore the similarity does have a faint genetic basis.... Its all in the DNA

Resus Monkies cant interbreed with Gorillas... thier diferent Genera... Thats not how evolution works...
I think you are missing a fundimental concept in evolutionary theory...

the reason that Horses and say Zebras can interbreed is that they are within the same genera (Equis equis and Equis Burchelli respectively) and genetically close enough to one another to allow it to happin. They aren't genetically close enough though to allow such a hybrid to be fertile...

Gorilla and Resus are totaly different. Different genera, and eaven different familiy (Gorillia gorilla, fam. Pongidae compaired to Macaca mulatta fam Cercoptihecidae) Thereby makeing such a union genetically impossible.

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But I 'm aware about universal legends and the fact some entities come out of stones
I took this as an implication that you considered Uktena one of these legends.

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Old 05-12-2004, 04:23 AM
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Off course gorillas and Rhesus can not interbreed and fungus will not evolved into or from animals. Now that you got my point I say unto you: hominids couldn't breed among them and finally cos of some evolutionist MIRACLE or mutation or adaptation for the same reason you said. It's all in DNA limits.
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Off course gorillas and Rhesus can not interbreed and fungus will not evolved into or from animals. Now that you got my point I say unto you: hominids couldn't breed among them and finally cos of some evolutionist MIRACLE or mutation or adaptation for the same reason you said. It's all in DNA limits.
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Old 05-12-2004, 05:20 AM
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Darwinism was never science but philosophy.
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Darwinism was never science but philosophy.
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Old 05-12-2004, 10:26 AM
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of cource hominids couldn't interbreed with them... by the time we were hominids we had bred so long ammongst ourselves that we were now a seperate genera... first with the arrival of the genus Australopithicidae and later with the arival of the genus Homo...

the evolution of 'man' doesn't require us to breed with apes... infact it was our prolonged non-breeding that helped us seperate ourselves from them. We are our own genus.. Homo... and our own family Hominidiae...

now wether or not we could interbreed with other members of Homo is still under debate. most notabily the 'what happined to H. Neanderthal?' question... The recent discovery of an infant Neandertal may help with this argument or it may not... but It will definatly help us in understanding our last close relation.

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of cource hominids couldn't interbreed with them... by the time we were hominids we had bred so long ammongst ourselves that we were now a seperate genera... first with the arrival of the genus Australopithicidae and later with the arival of the genus Homo...

the evolution of 'man' doesn't require us to breed with apes... infact it was our prolonged non-breeding that helped us seperate ourselves from them. We are our own genus.. Homo... and our own family Hominidiae...

now wether or not we could interbreed with other members of Homo is still under debate. most notabily the 'what happined to H. Neanderthal?' question... The recent discovery of an infant Neandertal may help with this argument or it may not... but It will definatly help us in understanding our last close relation.

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<< by the time we were hominids we had bred so long ammongst ourselves that we were now a seperate genera.>> That's the point again: HOW THE HELL THE HOMINIDS BECAME HOMINIDS UNTIL THEY TRANSFORMED INTO A SEPARATE GENETIC!!! It's refreshing to recognize once more how evolutionists suffer from a severe case of amnesia!
<<the evolution of 'man' doesn't require us to breed with apes>> Ha, ha! You're trapped again. First evolutionists keep on arguing among themselves what's the missing link (they still look for it after so many years and there's always a new "promising fossil"!) Who is "us" in that sentence of yours? Us as we are now or us as we were before we became into "us"? Please continue with your funny games .
<<now wether or not we could interbreed with other members of Homo is still under debate. most notabily the 'what happined to H. Neanderthal?' question... The recent discovery of an infant Neandertal may help with this argument or it may not>>> you see? Typical of evolutionist "science": there are doubts, it's difficult to say yes or no, this could help or not but definitely helps!!!!!!!
You must be killing everybody's legs here! No. I thought your arguments could be more dense but I regret to say I'm dissapointed. I thought you could do better. I have heard some interesting arguments in many forums even discussing more than 20 pages but...not here. I don't deserve to invest that time to hear that fantastic answer of yours. I think your words may be an astonishing epilog.
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<< by the time we were hominids we had bred so long ammongst ourselves that we were now a seperate genera.>> That's the point again: HOW THE HELL THE HOMINIDS BECAME HOMINIDS UNTIL THEY TRANSFORMED INTO A SEPARATE GENETIC!!! It's refreshing to recognize once more how evolutionists suffer from a severe case of amnesia!
<<the evolution of 'man' doesn't require us to breed with apes>> Ha, ha! You're trapped again. First evolutionists keep on arguing among themselves what's the missing link (they still look for it after so many years and there's always a new "promising fossil"!) Who is "us" in that sentence of yours? Us as we are now or us as we were before we became into "us"? Please continue with your funny games .
<<now wether or not we could interbreed with other members of Homo is still under debate. most notabily the 'what happined to H. Neanderthal?' question... The recent discovery of an infant Neandertal may help with this argument or it may not>>> you see? Typical of evolutionist "science": there are doubts, it's difficult to say yes or no, this could help or not but definitely helps!!!!!!!
You must be killing everybody's legs here! No. I thought your arguments could be more dense but I regret to say I'm dissapointed. I thought you could do better. I have heard some interesting arguments in many forums even discussing more than 20 pages but...not here. I don't deserve to invest that time to hear that fantastic answer of yours. I think your words may be an astonishing epilog.
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