Creation vs. Evolution (Earth, Eden, genesis, eternal, bible)

[Engyo]

Buddha said the question of who made the world was not really an important one.....

He felt it is more important to deal with the fact that people are suffering.

[deahca2]

I'm with Buddha on this one. The whole point is, WE'RE HERE. We might as well get on with it. What a waste to sit and worry about how G-d did or didn't do.
I got a quote once from someone. He said " Life is not about finding yourself, life is about creating yourself" . By this I took it to mean, we should be busy making our lives.

deah

[Colin_Admin]

I have a question, can you belive in both ideas?

[Runt]

I believe you can, as long as you think of evolution as the mechanism by which God created the world in Genesis. In Genesis it says that plants were created, then animals, then humans. Evolution basically says the same thing. Perhaps because God is eternal It those seven days were just REALLY long?

[Master Hoomer]

Originally Posted by Engyo

Buddha said the question of who made the world was not really an important one.....

He felt it is more important to deal with the fact that people are suffering.

Buddhist suffering is about the falseness of reality and material possesions..though isnt it? as opposed to suffering as I chopped my left leg off whilst carving a turkey.... :roll:

[deahca2]

In my faith we are to concentrate on this life and not "store up goodie points " with G-d for a benefit later. If we all left this planet just a tiny bit better than when we got here, wouldn't it be grand?
OH and the "time line". We see one day ( genesis) as from the "beginning of an action until the end of that action by G-d".Well, my branch of Judaism, anyway, lol. So, that beginning of action can be an instant to millenia or even billenia.
Deah

[Engyo]

Master Hoomer -

Actually it is all suffering - no real differentiation. Chopping your leg while carving turkey is just as much about the 3 Poisons (ignorance, anger & greed) and lack of mindfulness as suffering because your neighbor bought a Lexus and you can't afford a new car at all.

[Master Hoomer]

:lol: ok ty Engyo...

I'll rember not to carve turkeys in a new car...

[Death]

Originally Posted by Rex_Admin

Creation Theory- God created everything

Evolution Theory- Man has evolved from basically bacteria which started as a result of the big bang (some don't include that in this theory)

That's a gross oversimplification.

Evolution theory is based around:

• Heredity, that is, genetic information passed down from parents, this is clearly demonstratable, think of talk-shows with paternity tests, or even physical traits that are passed down in the family like bad eyesight, heart disease or cancer or CF.
  
• Reproduction, which is covered in most sex education and nature programs. Babies are evidence this occurs.
  
• Selection, or who gets to pass on their genes via reproduction. This happens in the wild according to what traits are beneficial, or thanks to humans, like in breeding specific breeds of cattle or dog or whatever with what traits we want to see survive.
  
• Mutation, or changes in the genetic code, resulting in different proteins being coded for, and new traits result.

I am really not sure what some other religions say about this topic.

Nature based ones don't have anything really against it. Fundamentalist protestant christians and muslims are the largest factions of people who don't believe in evolution, people like the flat earthers and others.

I believe you can, as long as you think of evolution as the mechanism by which God created the world in Genesis. In Genesis it says that plants were created,

BEFORE the Sun.

then animals, then humans. Evolution basically says the same thing. Perhaps because God is eternal It those seven days were just REALLY long?

Because it says days and uses words like morning and evening. There's no reason to think it means anything other than what it says, unless you've already decided the religious text is correct and must interpret it ad-hoc to fit with current knowledge.

As for AiG, they are not a reputable source, they are pseudoscientific to the extreme and just read this from their own page:

Originally Posted by [url=http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/about/faith.asp

AnswersinGenesis[/url]] "By definition, no apparent, perceived or claimed evidence in any field, including history and chronology, can be valid if it contradicts the Scriptural record."

I suggest you read my page regarding creation/evolution.

[deahca2]

Sorry, I think that's a low blow. Not EVERYONE takes scriptures literally.
G-d may have created scientifically. I find that both beliefs creation /evolution can live quite well together
One day could well mean 1 billion years or parsec for that matter.