Creation vs. Evolution (Earth, Eden, genesis, eternal, bible)

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Ceridwen018: I didn't say you were arrogant. I wanted to say teenagers usually are cos probably their hormones are shouting louder or because they are learning things they consider "new" and grabbed to those ideas. There's nothing new under the Sun. I admitted you are someone who reads and I'm encouraging (perhaps I was too emphatic) to go beyond the average.
The people here talk about evolution thinking the concept was originally invented by Darwin. Ignorance again & again & again. He studied the thing, of course but he wasn't the first having the idea. It already existed in India and in Buddhism, even the idea of "spontaneous generation". (just to warn the people who diminush the ancient concepts) . Darwin himself was irritated and promoted "his" idea immediately after Pasteur (who believed in Creation) discovered there is no "spontaneus generation" but life comes from already existing invisible life. Yet, the people don't even compared the dates and never learned the "struggle" between them. Of course, probably NOW someone is gonna do the homework, search something by internet and instantly will know everything about it....something I already read 3 decades ago before internet was available.

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Ceridwen018: I didn't say you were arrogant. I wanted to say teenagers usually are cos probably their hormones are shouting louder or because they are learning things they consider "new" and grabbed to those ideas. There's nothing new under the Sun. I admitted you are someone who reads and I'm encouraging (perhaps I was too emphatic) to go beyond the average.
The people here talk about evolution thinking the concept was originally invented by Darwin. Ignorance again & again & again. He studied the thing, of course but he wasn't the first having the idea. It already existed in India and in Buddhism, even the idea of "spontaneous generation". (just to warn the people who diminush the ancient concepts) . Darwin himself was irritated and promoted "his" idea immediately after Pasteur (who believed in Creation) discovered there is no "spontaneus generation" but life comes from already existing invisible life. Yet, the people don't even compared the dates and never learned the "struggle" between them. Of course, probably NOW someone is gonna do the homework, search something by internet and instantly will know everything about it....something I already read 3 decades ago before internet was available.

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I encourage you to read Darwin first and study the idea or concept. Now evolution was "adorned", disguised, transform with modern and impressive names. Don't be deceived. Darwin thought the changes-adaptation or mutation will be so great that different species which are not connected whatsoever will eventually (because of time and X circumstances occuring on nature) transform into other: fishes-birds-reptiles-anphibious-mammals-man. Genetic has demonstrated in numerous ocassions that is imposible or even very improbable EVEN BY DIRECT GENETIC MANIPULATION. If in any case the mutation, adaptation transform one specie into another by those means, that never happens in natural condition. So, if one day that achievment is done, it would demonstrate not evolution whatsoever but a direct genetic creation.
I have said the information decoded by billions of neurons and conections in the brain is something that even make the surgeon specialists or neuro-specialist bow in awe admiration , even comparing that with the number of atoms in the universe. So, there was something more that was the difference between apes and man. The links I posted gave the specific information, the fact we have 223 genes that are not in evolutionary tree in the vertical progression, 25 to 35 proteins of the genes are exclusively human. The creation of several Adamus or Adapas needed an external interference, an external manipulation, the use of specific method (even using clay and the blood of the "gods"). The fact that modern scientific knowledge is only corroborating what was explained in ancient books of different people in different languages is something not to be overlooked. And the ones who discover those things are not inventing.They are just allowing the people to be aware of those scientific facts.
For example, the people when they read the Bible they don't know the word "snake" is "nahash" while copper is "nehoshet". They ignore -and that is not a sin, it's just a fact- the hidden meaning of "snake" is "the one who knows the secret of copper". In Egypt, the snake was wrapped around a stick in the depiction of VIRGIN Isis, one helper of the goddess grabbed a single snake in a stick while the other grabbed another. What was that?

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I encourage you to read Darwin first and study the idea or concept. Now evolution was "adorned", disguised, transform with modern and impressive names. Don't be deceived. Darwin thought the changes-adaptation or mutation will be so great that different species which are not connected whatsoever will eventually (because of time and X circumstances occuring on nature) transform into other: fishes-birds-reptiles-anphibious-mammals-man. Genetic has demonstrated in numerous ocassions that is imposible or even very improbable EVEN BY DIRECT GENETIC MANIPULATION. If in any case the mutation, adaptation transform one specie into another by those means, that never happens in natural condition. So, if one day that achievment is done, it would demonstrate not evolution whatsoever but a direct genetic creation.
I have said the information decoded by billions of neurons and conections in the brain is something that even make the surgeon specialists or neuro-specialist bow in awe admiration , even comparing that with the number of atoms in the universe. So, there was something more that was the difference between apes and man. The links I posted gave the specific information, the fact we have 223 genes that are not in evolutionary tree in the vertical progression, 25 to 35 proteins of the genes are exclusively human. The creation of several Adamus or Adapas needed an external interference, an external manipulation, the use of specific method (even using clay and the blood of the "gods"). The fact that modern scientific knowledge is only corroborating what was explained in ancient books of different people in different languages is something not to be overlooked. And the ones who discover those things are not inventing.They are just allowing the people to be aware of those scientific facts.
For example, the people when they read the Bible they don't know the word "snake" is "nahash" while copper is "nehoshet". They ignore -and that is not a sin, it's just a fact- the hidden meaning of "snake" is "the one who knows the secret of copper". In Egypt, the snake was wrapped around a stick in the depiction of VIRGIN Isis, one helper of the goddess grabbed a single snake in a stick while the other grabbed another. What was that?

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In the act of conception, when spermatozoid penetrates into the egg cell of the female, the DNA double snake made of "sugar" splits and one of the halves have to be united with the other half to form a new double helix and thus Horus was born. The sceptres meant that. Not too many people are aware some civilizations although they knew iron they prefered the use of copper for reasons I don't wanna explain. Perhaps Nikolai Tesla knew something about it:
www.keelynet.com/unclass/hardy1.htm
www.totse.com/en/fringe/tesla/hardy1.html
www.dowsing.com/Pyramid/pyener.htm
In Sumer, before Egypt, the snake "nahash" was also the one who knew secrets and there was a sanctuary of "emash" (the sound with "sh" is always present in different languages related to the same god-snake). In Egypt the symbol of the god Ptah was DNA double snake helix. The antiophidian medicine used by Moses (who learned in Egypt) to cure the ones bit by venom snakes was a copper-snake (Numbers 21:6-8). In fact that copper-snake (not bronze as translated in some Bibles) was on exhibition in Jerusalem museum. The son of Mary (in a different procedure of parthenogenesis) talked about himself that to give LIFE (the seed of life from the very Genesis and the struggle between the offspring of the woman against the snake) he had to die. He compared himself with Moses' copper snake (John 3:14). That symbol was known by Incas, Mayas and other civilizations. In fact, the Moches in Peru (as in Mexico, etc) they used "empirically" electricity to golden the copper for reasons too long and too off the theme to write it here and now. But to say it cut to the chase, the objects usually were used in complete darkness and a common architectural "method" was polishing the stones to keep the light off the temples. In complete darkness the "eyes" are opened. We call melatonine the substance originated by pituitary gland. The name comes from Greek and means something working (activate) by night. Serious experiences have confirmed the electromagnetism of the Earth has been affecting all the time the hormons of human beings...including the ones of FERTILITY. No surprise the ancient people were heliolaters cos the Sun is the direct responsible of changes in our planet.

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In the act of conception, when spermatozoid penetrates into the egg cell of the female, the DNA double snake made of "sugar" splits and one of the halves have to be united with the other half to form a new double helix and thus Horus was born. The sceptres meant that. Not too many people are aware some civilizations although they knew iron they prefered the use of copper for reasons I don't wanna explain. Perhaps Nikolai Tesla knew something about it:
www.keelynet.com/unclass/hardy1.htm
www.totse.com/en/fringe/tesla/hardy1.html
www.dowsing.com/Pyramid/pyener.htm
In Sumer, before Egypt, the snake "nahash" was also the one who knew secrets and there was a sanctuary of "emash" (the sound with "sh" is always present in different languages related to the same god-snake). In Egypt the symbol of the god Ptah was DNA double snake helix. The antiophidian medicine used by Moses (who learned in Egypt) to cure the ones bit by venom snakes was a copper-snake (Numbers 21:6-8). In fact that copper-snake (not bronze as translated in some Bibles) was on exhibition in Jerusalem museum. The son of Mary (in a different procedure of parthenogenesis) talked about himself that to give LIFE (the seed of life from the very Genesis and the struggle between the offspring of the woman against the snake) he had to die. He compared himself with Moses' copper snake (John 3:14). That symbol was known by Incas, Mayas and other civilizations. In fact, the Moches in Peru (as in Mexico, etc) they used "empirically" electricity to golden the copper for reasons too long and too off the theme to write it here and now. But to say it cut to the chase, the objects usually were used in complete darkness and a common architectural "method" was polishing the stones to keep the light off the temples. In complete darkness the "eyes" are opened. We call melatonine the substance originated by pituitary gland. The name comes from Greek and means something working (activate) by night. Serious experiences have confirmed the electromagnetism of the Earth has been affecting all the time the hormons of human beings...including the ones of FERTILITY. No surprise the ancient people were heliolaters cos the Sun is the direct responsible of changes in our planet.

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www.mauricecotterell.com/synopsis02.htm
www.mauricecotterell.com/synopsis03.htm
I have to say that scientist and engineer is not an amateur. He's someone recognized cos in 1989 he discovered how to calculate the duration of magnetic changes in the Sun. BECAUSE OF THAT KNOWLEDGE he became aware the ancient civilizations already knew the secret, so I encourage you to read "The Lost Tomb of Viracocha", "Supergods" and "Tutankhamon Prophecies" just to know a bit more of religion. You know, culture doesn't bite. Even the orthodox authorities in Mexico awarded him with a medal for his contributions to "Voluntariado Cultural".
The guy quotes the work of experts in genetic field like the team led by A.R. Lieboff in Navy Medical Research Institute in Bethesda, Maryland and professor Hans Eysenck from London Institute of Psichiatry, also Dr. Ross Aidey, medical advisor of the White House in Reagan's government who discovered in 1987 the production of melatonine is affected immensely by magnetic fields. Yet, all these things were not only known but practiced in ancient civilizations and I don't think I have to demonstrate that in this issue. All what I'm saying now, is the use of certain elements in specific shapes (like copper, pyramids, polished stones to "join" them perfetly producing darkness) under certain circumstances and times (solstices, equinoxes, eclipses) were done on purpose to achieve some things. The evidence is ruins that archeologists are unable to re-build NOT EVEN WITH MINIATURES AND MOCK UP EXPERIENCES (if you don't believe me, pay History Channel and wait to see more). They never said they invented the knowledge or discovered everything they "achieved". Usually they attributed to the "gods"; whether modern criteria accept or not what they manifetsed themselves is completely irrelevant.
They also had legends that explain how life come on Earth...because of the gods. But, as usual, people only "digest" what is (spoon fed) in the surface.
North America is the result of the coming of English pioneers who wanted to stablish a home for themselves. They were Protestants. They wiped out almost all different kind of indians who really didn't have civilizations like Mexico or Peru, Bolivia, etc. To Central and South America went the Spaniards and Portuguese who were fed up to fight more than 800 centuries against the Muslim arabs. They belonged to the Catholic church which was a religion on its way down the road in Europe. They didn't go just to stablish a paradise for themselves in the difficult jungle and Dantesque climate. They went to "preach" the religion to the new settlements and make fame & fortune at the same time, using indian slaves first and black slaves imported from Africa afterwards. So, usually most Americans (exceptions confirm the rule) don't have too much knowledge about this particular history. You will love to see the film "ALAMO" cos is part of your history but who the hell wanted to see "1492 the Conquest of the Paradise" about Christopher Columbus? Not even the ones living in Ohio who have the "caravela" ship replica ! Is it still there?
Therefore, my request is: be humble and learn first. Then after you can write or discuss about whatever you want.
I think I will end my participation right here but since the issue here was CREATION and not just creation of animal species, the theme should've began back in space-time. Hence, would you like to rewind the space-time tape?:

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www.mauricecotterell.com/synopsis02.htm
www.mauricecotterell.com/synopsis03.htm
I have to say that scientist and engineer is not an amateur. He's someone recognized cos in 1989 he discovered how to calculate the duration of magnetic changes in the Sun. BECAUSE OF THAT KNOWLEDGE he became aware the ancient civilizations already knew the secret, so I encourage you to read "The Lost Tomb of Viracocha", "Supergods" and "Tutankhamon Prophecies" just to know a bit more of religion. You know, culture doesn't bite. Even the orthodox authorities in Mexico awarded him with a medal for his contributions to "Voluntariado Cultural".
The guy quotes the work of experts in genetic field like the team led by A.R. Lieboff in Navy Medical Research Institute in Bethesda, Maryland and professor Hans Eysenck from London Institute of Psichiatry, also Dr. Ross Aidey, medical advisor of the White House in Reagan's government who discovered in 1987 the production of melatonine is affected immensely by magnetic fields. Yet, all these things were not only known but practiced in ancient civilizations and I don't think I have to demonstrate that in this issue. All what I'm saying now, is the use of certain elements in specific shapes (like copper, pyramids, polished stones to "join" them perfetly producing darkness) under certain circumstances and times (solstices, equinoxes, eclipses) were done on purpose to achieve some things. The evidence is ruins that archeologists are unable to re-build NOT EVEN WITH MINIATURES AND MOCK UP EXPERIENCES (if you don't believe me, pay History Channel and wait to see more). They never said they invented the knowledge or discovered everything they "achieved". Usually they attributed to the "gods"; whether modern criteria accept or not what they manifetsed themselves is completely irrelevant.
They also had legends that explain how life come on Earth...because of the gods. But, as usual, people only "digest" what is (spoon fed) in the surface.
North America is the result of the coming of English pioneers who wanted to stablish a home for themselves. They were Protestants. They wiped out almost all different kind of indians who really didn't have civilizations like Mexico or Peru, Bolivia, etc. To Central and South America went the Spaniards and Portuguese who were fed up to fight more than 800 centuries against the Muslim arabs. They belonged to the Catholic church which was a religion on its way down the road in Europe. They didn't go just to stablish a paradise for themselves in the difficult jungle and Dantesque climate. They went to "preach" the religion to the new settlements and make fame & fortune at the same time, using indian slaves first and black slaves imported from Africa afterwards. So, usually most Americans (exceptions confirm the rule) don't have too much knowledge about this particular history. You will love to see the film "ALAMO" cos is part of your history but who the hell wanted to see "1492 the Conquest of the Paradise" about Christopher Columbus? Not even the ones living in Ohio who have the "caravela" ship replica ! Is it still there?
Therefore, my request is: be humble and learn first. Then after you can write or discuss about whatever you want.
I think I will end my participation right here but since the issue here was CREATION and not just creation of animal species, the theme should've began back in space-time. Hence, would you like to rewind the space-time tape?:

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You can follow the theme during 9 pages under my name, Oscar. You will read not only about Big Bang but specific ancient knowledge given by the "gods". Of course, you will see other people react and have different opinions and the debate continued and continued and continued until I was not allowed to respond no more and the threat was closed by the Moderator. But who really WANTS TO READ AND SEE A DIFFERENT OPINION? I tell you now. Not many. Only the few who have the patience to understand. That's why ignorance is predominant, people just don't wanna "waste time". If I'd thought that way, I would've never learned 3 languages or would be interested in learn a 4th one, Russian.
http://www.physicsforums.com/showthr...ge=1&pp=15
Now, if you'll excuse me, I really would like to stop my participation. I hope I can restrain myself from keep on answering...

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You can follow the theme during 9 pages under my name, Oscar. You will read not only about Big Bang but specific ancient knowledge given by the "gods". Of course, you will see other people react and have different opinions and the debate continued and continued and continued until I was not allowed to respond no more and the threat was closed by the Moderator. But who really WANTS TO READ AND SEE A DIFFERENT OPINION? I tell you now. Not many. Only the few who have the patience to understand. That's why ignorance is predominant, people just don't wanna "waste time". If I'd thought that way, I would've never learned 3 languages or would be interested in learn a 4th one, Russian.
http://www.physicsforums.com/showthr...ge=1&pp=15
Now, if you'll excuse me, I really would like to stop my participation. I hope I can restrain myself from keep on answering...