Egypt and Iran deny basic human rights to Baha`i's for religious reasons: Right or Wrong? (moral, reject)

[Popeyesays]

In Egypt and Iran Baha`i's are denied access to basic citizenship papers and identity cards because they cannot check off an accepted religion on the form. This means they cannot get employment, attend school, vote, marry, or enjoy the benefits of citizenship in their own countries.

Right or wrong?

Regards,
Scott

[robtex]

Originally Posted by Popeyesays

In Egypt and Iran Baha`i's are denied access to basic citizenship papers and identity cards because they cannot check off an accepted religion on the form. This means they cannot get employment, attend school, vote, marry, or enjoy the benefits of citizenship in their own countries.

Right or wrong?

Regards,
Scott

I am going with wrong because politically I am a secularists, but as a question to broaden out your question if one where a theist, who was a non-secularists, philosophically speaking the answer to that question may be contingent upon the perception of the question of divine right. My understanding in Iran (I don't know about Egypt) is that Islam is a product of divine right and that bahai is blasphemous to the one true God. Freedom of choice, which I think you are advocating in the OP is in direct conflict with the notion of divine right.

so maybe as a sub-point would be the analysis of the notion of divine right and its validity as a perception to a political and governmental system.

Taking that back to your original point I would say it is amoral to position a product faith in any government because divine right, as a product of faith cannot be assessed for validity and because of such doesn't belong in a governmental system that must, in order to be globally effective compete in terms of tangible and measurable ideas that are linked to gdp, gnp, export import as well as domestic ideas that must be tangible with examples like education and medicine.

In short any intangible faith that is married to a governmental system is bound to detract from the functional need for a government to produce tangible results.

I wouldn't strongly advocate that freedom of personal choice is morally correct but that is because I reject philosophically speaking, the validity of divine right of anyones God.

[ChristineES]

I personally think that is messed up. It is too bad that people don't have any personal freedom in some countries. In some countries, there aren't any human rights, either.
Sometimes we Americans forget how good we have it, don't we.

[jamaesi]

It's wrong, and nowhere supported by Islam if I might add.

[Popeyesays]

Originally Posted by Khalila

It's wrong, and nowhere supported by Islam if I might add.

I agree that it is a tortuopusly twisted mockery of Islam that does such things, but that is what is in control in Iran and Egypt (to a lesser extent).

Regards,
Scott