Ask about Jehovah's Witnesses (beliefs, choice, Satan, Adam and Eve)

[WitnessofJah]

Originally Posted by mrscarrdero

Do the Jehova Witnesses believe they have the one true religion?

I will not answer this question for you. If you were to ask that same question to any religious contingency you would get an answer in return that their religion is the right one. However, it is your job to look into detail at every religion and come to a conclusion about which one is the correct one.

[linwood]

Originally Posted by WitnessofJah

No I am not saying this at all. If you read my prior response carefully, I was actually talking about the the ancient Greek texts.

I didn`t think you did I just wanted to be perfectly clear.

Read my response to "Robtex". We do no "enforce" anything and only "advise".

I never said you "enforced" it, however saying it is merely "advice" is dishonest at best.
People are excommunicated from the sect and banned then shunned.

I would call that a form of "enforcement".

I think you missed this question below.

Witness what is your opinion of the Silent Lambs and their efforts?

You have not been reading what I have been writing. The Bible itself say's that the Mosaic laws are no longer applicable - and that's why we don't follow them anymore. There is no other part of the Bible that does this - but only for the Mosaic law. By not following the Mosaic law, we are are following the Bible even more closely than most people, not disobeying it

Where does the Bible say that the Mosiac Law is obsolete?
I find this in Matthew.

Matthew 5:17-
Do not think I came to destroy the law or the Prophets.I came not to destroy but to fulfill;
For truly I say to you that sooner would heaven and earth pass away than for one smallest letter or particle of a letter to pass away from the Law by any means and not all things take place
Whoever therefore breaks one of these least commandments and teaches mankind to that effect, he will be called the "least" in relation to the kingdom of the heavens.

Do the Jehova Witnesses believe they have the one true religion?

Don`t they all?

[WitnessofJah]

Originally Posted by Druidus

Alright, but what about the other stuff? Are you vegetarians? Do you drink milk or eat eggs? If so, you have undoubtably eaten/drinken blood.

No, most of us are not vegetarians. However, as long as the food is properly cooked and an effort has been made to avoid the consumption of blood, our consciences are clear. After blood has been cooked, the blood (and what it represents) has been destroyed and therefore, is edible. As for minute traces of blood found in certain foods (milk, eggs), that is for an individual to decide - which come down to his/her conscience. It would be impossible to put everything we eat under a microscope beforehand, as this is neither realistic or ideal. However, as long as God see's the effort of avoiding blood in the first place, no sin is being commited.

What about the other holy texts? They predict as much, or more then the bible. And at least one predicted planes and guns. Are these not valid too?

Many books may have "prophecies", but how many are actually realistically relevant to our personal lives and our future? A prediction of planes and guns does not automatically mean that a book is inspired of God - a prophecy is only one criteria - there are many others.

However, some are very specific, such as the one where he predicts that Napolean will be exiled to the island of Elba, even going so far as to use Napoleans symbol and the name of the island.

This may be true, however, Nostradamus also told many prophecies that never did happen. The distiction between him and Bible prophets is that the prophecies of the Bible prophets ALL came true, and actually had a significant meaning. If I predicted my own death (like Nostradamus did), does that make me a prophet of God?

What I mean is, why did he show such disdain for non-Israelites? Why did he favour one people over another? Especially if he is an all-loving God.

By the way, are you allowed to play such games as "Dungeons and Dragons"?

Because they were the only people on earth who were following his laws. The rest of the world at that time were worshipping false gods and believed in pagan doctrines. And when the Israelites disobeyed God, he punished them. If you read the book of 'Judges' in the Bible, you can read about the times when the Israelites disobeyed God on many occasions, and he punished them each and every time by letting them get conquered (temporarily) by rival nations until they repented. His love for his people was by no means unconditional.

[Druidus]

How come God does not strike down the numerous pagans we have today? The whole CITIES that do not worship him?

Blood is not destroyed in meat. The water in the blood leaves, but the hemoglobin, the heart of the blood, soaks into the flesh, and that is where you get the taste from.

The distiction between him and Bible prophets is that the prophecies of the Bible prophets ALL came true, and actually had a significant meaning. If I predicted my own death (like Nostradamus did), does that make me a prophet of God?

The all came true? Really? How do you know that? Because it's written in the bible? Oh. Ok. That explains it then. Since the prophecies of Nostradamus are usually vague, we cannot reasonably say they HAVEN'T come true. They may, indeed, come true later.

a prophecy is only one criteria - there are many others.

What, praytell, are these criteria. List them in point form please.


By the way, again, can you play games like "Dungeons and Dragons"?

[cardero]

Someone had explained to me that there were several occasions (specifically 1914, 1925, 1975) where the Jehovah’s Witnesses predicted “the end of this system of things” or that God’s judgment was to reign down upon the planet.



Was this prophecy actually accepted by the whole organization or was this the decision of a few over-zealous members? Do the Jehovah Witnesses still believe that it will BE in this generation when Judgment Day arrives? If it doesn’t arrive in this generation how does this bode for the future of the organization?

[Ronald]

WitnessofJah, You Silver Tongued Wit_ess, I give up on getting an answer from you.
You also are in Replacement Theology, which is close, but Close only counts in Horseshoes.
That which is Perfect, Holy, Just and Good is as valid today as it was at creation!
My dad, said "Figures don't lie, But Liars can figure." This also goes for those who run fast and loose with the Bible.
Since you have only the JW Watchtower Babble, I wont keep asking you anything, as I said before I am able to read English.
Baruch Hashem and Shalom U'Vrachot

[WitnessofJah]

Originally Posted by linwood

I never said you "enforced" it, however saying it is merely "advice" is dishonest at best.
People are excommunicated from the sect and banned then shunned.

I would call that a form of "enforcement".

Where did you get this idea from? What is your definition of "banned then shunned"? As a matter of fact, it would be wrong on our part to expel anybody who married outside of the faith, since there is no set law, only advise. I think you are confusing this with our protocol to expel people who bring reproach on God's name by commiting serious sins (i.e. fornication, adultery). And even then, once the individual has repented, they are allowed to return back into the congregation.

I think you missed this question below.

No, I did'nt miss it. I anwered it on page 7, near the bottom.

Where does the Bible say that the Mosiac Law is obsolete?
I find this in Matthew.

Matthew 5:17-
Do not think I came to destroy the law or the Prophets.I came not to destroy but to fulfill;
For truly I say to you that sooner would heaven and earth pass away than for one smallest letter or particle of a letter to pass away from the Law by any means and not all things take place
Whoever therefore breaks one of these least commandments and teaches mankind to that effect, he will be called the "least" in relation to the kingdom of the heavens.

The Bible said that the Mosaic law was obsolete in quite a few passages in the Bible (both in the OT and NT). I feel it is best described in Hebrew 8:6-13, and when reading this, keep in mind that the terms "First/old covenant" refers to the Mosaic law, and "New covenant" refers to the laws of Christ. Hebrews 8:6-13:

6 But now [Jesus] has obtained a more excellent public service, so that he is also the mediator of a correspondingly better covenant, which has been legally established upon better promises.

7

For if that first covenant had been faultless, no place would have been sought for a second; 8 for he does find fault with the people when he says: "‘Look! There are days coming,’ says Jehovah, ‘and I will conclude with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah a new covenant; 9 not according to the covenant that I made with their forefathers in [the] day of my taking hold of their hand to bring them forth out of the land of Egypt, because they did not continue in my covenant, so that I stopped caring for them,’ says Jehovah."

10

"‘For this is the covenant that I shall covenant with the house of Israel after those days,’ says Jehovah. ‘I will put my laws in their mind, and in their hearts I shall write them. And I will become their God, and they themselves will become my people.

11

"‘And they will by no means teach each one his fellow citizen and each one his brother, saying: "Know Jehovah!" For they will all know me, from [the] least one to [the] greatest one of them. 12 For I shall be merciful to their unrighteous deeds, and I shall by no means call their sins to mind anymore.’"

And here is the crescendo....

13 In his saying "a new [covenant]" he has made the former one obsolete. Now that which is made obsolete and growing old is near to vanishing away.

[WitnessofJah]

Originally Posted by Druidus

How come God does not strike down the numerous pagans we have today? The whole CITIES that do not worship him?

You're right, God's destructive power today is not as apparent as it was with the Israelites. However, God will destroy the people who deny him when the time is right (Rev 16:16). God is not a liar, and what he foretells will come true. God, in Malachi 4:1, says: "For, look! the day is coming that is burning like the furnace, and all the presumptuous ones and all those doing wickedness must become as stubble. And the day that is coming will certainly devour them," Jehovah of armies has said, "so that it will not leave to them either root or bough."

Blood is not destroyed in meat. The water in the blood leaves, but the hemoglobin, the heart of the blood, soaks into the flesh, and that is where you get the taste from.

Like I said before, what Blood represents - life, is destroyed after cooking. Destroyed blood is exactly that, dead blood. Once cooked, the sacredness of the blood no longer exists, and therefore, is no longer holy to God.

The all came true? Really? How do you know that? Because it's written in the bible? Oh. Ok. That explains it then. Since the prophecies of Nostradamus are usually vague, we cannot reasonably say they HAVEN'T come true. They may, indeed, come true later.

The Bible's prophecies are not true because it say's so - but because they were actually fulfilled. For example, the Bible foretold that Jesus Christ would arrive on Earth - 2000 years before the actual event took place. Coincidence? A guess? No, only divine inspiration.

What, praytell, are these criteria. List them in point form please.

A criteria for a book which shows that it is inspired of God are:

• True prophecies
• Historic soundness (times, dates, years)
• Geographic accuracy (places)
• Candor (honest - tells the good, bad, and the ugly)
• Internal harmony (no contradictions)
• Practical (achieveable and good advice for everyday lives)
• Claim (who wrote it and who they give credit to
• Preservation (that the word has been preserved over history)
• Archaelogical (evidence)

Here is the skeletal frame of a book that is inspired of god.

By the way, again, can you play games like "Dungeons and Dragons"?

A small description of the game: "The level of violence in this make-believe world runs high. There is hardly a game in which the players do not indulge in murder, arson, torture, rape, or highway robbery," comments veteran Dungeon Master John Eric Holmes in a recent article in Psychology Today.

The Bible clearly states in Matthew 15:19,20:
For example, out of the heart come wicked reasonings, murders, adulteries, fornications, thieveries, false testimonies, blasphemies.These are the things defiling a man; but to take a meal with unwashed hands does not defile a man." There are also countless other Bible passages that condemn this kind of behaviour.

So no, a Christian would not play 'Dungeons and Dragons', and to do so would be violating God's laws.

[WitnessofJah]

Originally Posted by carrdero

Someone had explained to me that there were several occasions (specifically 1914, 1925, 1975) where the Jehovah’s Witnesses predicted “the end of this system of things” or that God’s judgment was to reign down upon the planet.



Was this prophecy actually accepted by the whole organization or was this the decision of a few over-zealous members? Do the Jehovah Witnesses still believe that it will BE in this generation when Judgment Day arrives? If it doesn’t arrive in this generation how does this bode for the future of the organization?

You're right, it was a call made by a few over-zealous members. The entire organization never accepted these "predictions" and never have. There is no biblical date to when the end will come. The only person who knows the date for the end of this system of things is God himself. As far as the current generation of JW's goes, even though we do not know the date, we know it cannot be long. Bible prophecy is being fulfilled as we speak (see one of my previous posts), and this world, both environmentally and society-wise, is going down very fast. It may come in our lifetime, it may not, but we have full faith that it will come.

[WitnessofJah]

Originally Posted by Ronald

WitnessofJah, You Silver Tongued Wit_ess, I give up on getting an answer from you.
You also are in Replacement Theology, which is close, but Close only counts in Horseshoes.
That which is Perfect, Holy, Just and Good is as valid today as it was at creation!
My dad, said "Figures don't lie, But Liars can figure." This also goes for those who run fast and loose with the Bible.
Since you have only the JW Watchtower Babble, I wont keep asking you anything, as I said before I am able to read English.
Baruch Hashem and Shalom U'Vrachot

I have answered you each and every time, not from my opinion, but from the Bible. You have been negative and looked for flaws from the word go, but have been able to find none. You have asked the same question 3 times, and I have answered it 3 times, with each answer getting more simple each time. I have even shown you references and scriptures from the Bible, so it's not me you are rejecting, but the Bible itself.

I wish you the best in your journeys.