Ask about Jehovah's Witnesses (beliefs, choice, Satan, Adam and Eve)

[SoulTYPE]

Witnessdude, I do have a question on jehova's witnesses themselves.

Why do they feel they have to "doorknock" to convince families to believe in God? Should they not accept people's own religions, and not think that the "Jehova's Witness" way is THE RIGHT way?

[WitnessofJah]

Originally Posted by Druidus

But did you not say that you believe in the bible 100%? Therefore, since these were the words and commandments of God, you would be disobeying him, no? How can you say that these rules are not to be followed and others are? Why don't we not follow other rules, and say we can "still learn from them"?

You have not been reading what I have been writing. The Bible itself say's that the Mosaic laws are no longer applicable - and that's why we don't follow them anymore. There is no other part of the Bible that does this - but only for the Mosaic law. By not following the Mosaic law, we are are following the Bible even more closely than most people, not disobeying it

Ahh, but to say that you accept the bible in full, and then not to follow it literally would be hypocritical. You are not to eat the blood, it doesn't say you can't recieve transfusions. Every peice of meat you eat will have some blood in it. That's where the taste comes from (hemoglobin from the blood). Are you all vegetarians? There is also blood in eggs (chicken menstruation), and milk (Cows regularily have bleeding sores, because they have been engineered to have udders far too large for their bodies. Some of this blood and pus get in the milk.). Before you say that these are animals, and thus, do not count, read your quote again. "YOU must not eat the blood of any sort of flesh...". It says "any sort of flesh". I presume meat is flesh.

Act 15:29 says: To keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication. If YOU carefully keep yourselves from these things, YOU will prosper. Good health to YOU!" Nowhere in this scripture does it refer to food consumption only, it is a full command to abstain altogether. Ask yourself this: Do you think that God after banning blood from food, would be happy for his servants to accept blood through a needle?!

Zathutra (sp?), a prophet from around the same region as the biblical prophets, was killed for his predictions, because they were against the bible. The predictions came true. Show me these "predictions" that came true. What about the Vedic texts? The myriad other "holy" books? I recall, one of them had drawings of flyable aircraft!

I have never heard of Zathutra, there is no reference to him in the Bible.

Nostradamus also predicted much. However, biblical predictions are even more vague then his, and thus, open to speculation, not considered fact. The bible's message is harmonius? Why was the God of the old testament more like a sadistic ruler who favoured one child, and the God of the new testament like a loving martyr who favoured none? It's works and fruitage? Why aren't the other holy books considered the word of God to you, then?

As for Nostradamus, I would not consider him "a prophet". Of the alleged 946 predictions attributed to Nostradamus, only about 70 are considered to have had some kind of fulfillment. That works out to less than a 7-percent success rate. However, regarding the ‘successes,’ M’Clintock and Strong’s Cyclopædia comments that many are considered to be the "bold forgeries" of his interpreters, including the prediction of his own death. Others were "composed after the events to which they seem designed to refer." Some are "strained" in their application and some are shown to have ‘fulfillments’ in a number of different events.When astrologers predict future events, it is not always possible to determine their accuracy since it may require waiting centuries for the fulfillment, if there ever is a fulfillment.

The God of the OT was not being "tyrannical", despite what it seems. The fact that the first born was favoured was not something that God set in motion, it was actually the local Israelite tradition at the time, among many other traditions. From God's point of view, he was not going to "change" the culture of his people, however, he was going "regulate" it so that it was a fair system. If you read the other passages of the OT, this "OT God" is the same God that makes sure the poor people have food to eat and makes sure slaves are treated fairly and are set free after seven years, among many other things.

[SoulTYPE]

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Jah dude thinks I am invisible.

[WitnessofJah]

Originally Posted by SoulTYPE01

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Jah dude thinks I am invisible.

It's not that I am ignoring your question, it's that I have yet to answer the questions before yours. Once I have answered their's, then I will answer yours. I have not got a a-lot of time to come on here, which is why the response is slow.

[WitnessofJah]

Originally Posted by Ronald

In your condescending Laymans terms or any other terms, Show me where anyone goes to heaven EXCEPT He who Came Down From Heaven!!!! Seems to me you have a SECRET BIBLE, because I've never read one that sats "Go to Heaven" you me or anyone else. (Joh 3:13 No one has ascended intoheaven but he who descended from heaven, the Son of man.)
WitnessofJah likes to ADD also!

You're taking what I say out of context - which you done with my every response so far. Your response of John 3:13 has nothing to do with your original question of the first resurrection. To be able to understand John 3:13 correctly, you have to understand the context it was in first and also, and look at the prior scriptures. John 3:9-13 says: " In answer Nic·o·de´mus said to him: "How can these things come about?" 10 In answer Jesus said to him: "Are you a teacher of Israel and yet do not know these things? 11 Most truly I say to you, What we know we speak and what we have seen we bear witness of, but YOU people do not receive the witness we give. 12 If I have told YOU earthly things and yet YOU do not believe, how will YOU believe if I tell YOU heavenly things? 13 Moreover, no man has ascended into heaven but he that descended from heaven, the Son of man".

In other words, Jesus was telling Nicodemus that he, whose dwelling had been in heaven with his Father from the beginning of creation, had descended from heaven and was in position to instruct him about heavenly matters; but if Nicodemus was not going to accept his instruction, then there was no other way he could gain the knowledge he wanted, because no man had at any time ascended to heaven in order to get such knowledge and come back down here with it. Jesus was not discussing any previous ascension on his own part.

[WitnessofJah]

Originally Posted by robtex

I understand that Jehovah's witness cannot box, wrestle or study martial arts. Is this true? I also understand that they are discouraged from marrying outside of their faith...how true is that? When was Jesus last on earth and where?

That's many questions in one small paragraph.

First of all, the Bible condemns violence many times in the Bible. For example: Psalms 11:5 says: "Jehovah himself examines the righteous one as well as the wicked one,and anyone loving violence His soul certainly hates."So this verse actually says that 'anyone loving violence, God certainly hates'. With that in mind, do you think that god would actually approve of boxing, wrestling, or for that matter, any type of violence? God is not one to be mocked, and if people continue to do these things despite what his word says, they will have to answer for their error with no excuses when the time comes.

Regarding marrying outside of the faith, 1 Cor 7:39 says: "A wife is bound during all the time her husband is alive. But if her husband should fall asleep [in death], she is free to be married to whom she wants, only in [the] Lord." We are encourged to marry within the Lord, but we are not absolutely barred from marrying someone on the outside, but it is for our own spiritual good. For example, by marrying someone outside of what you believe in, you risk being turned away from the faith by your partner and losing your relationship with God. This "advise" is not to segregate ourselves from society, but is actually for our own spiritual good.

When was Jesus last on earth? Well, according to Biblical scripture, the last time he was on earth in a human form would have been around 33-34 C.E., soon after he died and at the time of the ascension.The account of the ascension is actually in Acts 1:1-11. The last appearance of Jesus was when he went up to the heavens never to be seen in human form again. Verse 9: "And after he had said these things, while they were looking on, he was lifted up and a cloud caught him up from their vision.. If you are asking instead about Jesus appearance on earth in spirit after that time period until now, there is no record. However, Jesus will return some day in the future to cleanse the earth of it's wickedness.(Rev 16:16)

[WitnessofJah]

Originally Posted by linwood

Are you saying that the New World Translation is not inerrant?
I have never heard a JW under any circumstances admit to this and I`ve argued it with quite a few.

No I am not saying this at all. If you read my prior response carefully, I was actually talking about the the ancient Greek texts. By comparing many of these Greek copies, we were able to compare them accurately to uncover the correct text. As I said in my previous response: 'From this we should not take the view that the text of the Christian Greek Scriptures has suffered measurably in transmission. Scholar Jack Finegan has stated: "The total number of New Testament manuscripts is very impressive. . . . No other Greek book has anything like this amount of testimony to its text. It is true that there are numerous textual variations among these different New Testament manuscripts, but the majority of them are of a relatively minor character . . . As a matter of fact, it has been estimated by careful students that there are substantial variations in hardly more than a thousandth part of the entire text."—Light from the Ancient Past, page 352.

It is entirely true.
Many sects do not want their flock to marry any of a different faith but the JW`s are extremely strict about it.

JW`s disparage most influence outside of their faith.

Read my response to "Robtex". We do no "enforce" anything and only "advise". To make anybody do anything would be wrong on our part.

[WitnessofJah]

Originally Posted by a2ndson

May I ask, how do you feel about the jw's common practice of telling their flock to shun those who don't agree 100% with their doctrine?

We don't "shun" anybody. I have been going to Kingdom Hall meetings for years and I have never been told by any elder in the congregation to shun/ignore non-believers. On the contrary, we are told to to have good conduct and be kind to non-believers. 1 Peter 2:12 says: "Maintain your conduct right among the nations, that . . . they may as a result of your right works . . . glorify God." As JW's we actually frown upon and condemn other JW's who act in a bad manner to non-believers.

[WitnessofJah]

Originally Posted by linwood

Witness what is your opinion of the Silent Lambs and their efforts?

The Silent Lambs are what we call "apostates". We have no hatred toward them at all but we frown upon their accusations because they are unfounded. A few of these Silent Lamb "members" were actually former JW'S which have an axe to grind because they were expelled for serious wrongdoing. The Bible even foretold that these people would exist: "For many deceivers have gone forth into the world, persons not confessing Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist." (2 John 7)

Do you know that these people have never confronted our society with names, facts, and places? The reason why is because none exist. If they did exist, we would be more than happy to cooperate and to expel these people. The Silent Lambs ride on publicity alone and nothing else.

[WitnessofJah]

Originally Posted by SoulTYPE01

Witnessdude, I do have a question on jehova's witnesses themselves.

Why do they feel they have to "doorknock" to convince families to believe in God? Should they not accept people's own religions, and not think that the "Jehova's Witness" way is THE RIGHT way?

The reason why we preach and knock on people's door is because the Bible COMMANDS us to do so many times. Jesus himself even preached in his era. Matthew 24:14 says: "And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come."

We don't try and force people to listen to our message. If they are not interested, we move on to the next person. As the time of the end in now approaching, we hold ourselves responsible for not spreading the word and talking to people about the kingdom message because at the end of the day, it is commanded of us.