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Old 11-12-2004, 12:30 PM
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"Zathutra (sp?), a prophet from around the same region as the biblical prophets, was killed for his predictions, because they were against the bible."

Druidus, I just want to help you out here. If (and I am only assuming) you are talking about Zorathustra, or Zoroaster, he was before the jews. And thus before the bible. So he was not killed for his predictions, he became the founder of Zoroastrianism. Of course, there are so many names from that part of the world that sound the same. I may be completely wrong. And if so, I gravely apologize.
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Old 11-12-2004, 12:32 PM
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Druidus, I just want to help you out here. If (and I am only assuming) you are talking about Zorathustra, or Zoroaster, he was before the jews. And thus before the bible. So he was not killed for his predictions, he became the founder of Zoroastrianism. Of course, there are so many names from that part of the world that sound the same. I may be completely wrong. And if so, I gravely apologize.
No, it wasn't him. However, there's no need to "gravely apologize"!

It's not like you killed someone!

Or did you...
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Old 11-12-2004, 03:22 PM
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Ronald, I have already answered your question! Jehovah's Witnesses teach from the Bible, and nowhere else. These scriptures are the word of God and should be the primary source of an arguement. I don't give my "own personal opinon" - I give the Bible's opinion.

In Laymans terms, the people in the first resurrection are the Anointed of christ who have been specially chosen by him to serve him in heaven for a 1000 years as kings. These are the only people on earth who will go to heaven. The rest of the humans resurrections' will remain here on earth to live forever on a paradise earth.
In your condescending Laymans terms or any other terms, Show me where anyone goes to heaven EXCEPT He who Came Down From Heaven!!!! Seems to me you have a SECRET BIBLE, because I've never read one that sats "Go to Heaven" you me or anyone else. (Joh 3:13 No one has ascended intoheaven but he who descended from heaven, the Son of man.)
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I understand that Jehovah's witness cannot box, wrestle or study martial arts. Is this true? I also understand that they are discouraged from marrying outside of their faith...how true is that? When was Jesus last on earth and where?
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In the New World Translation in the New Testament, Mathew 17:21 and 18:11 there is just a line no scripture. What is the reason for this?
The New World Translation is not alone in omitting Matthew 17:21 and Matthew 18:11, or in showing its questionable nature in an explanatory footnote. Among other translations doing so are the American Standard Version, An American Translation, Revised Standard Version and The New English Bible.

Evidently, then, copyists made some additions to the Greek text of the Bible at times, being more prone to do this than to omit material. However, careful Biblical research has resulted in uncovering such scribal elaborations. Consequently, the most dependable Greek texts are found to be the most condensed.

From this we should not take the view that the text of the Christian Greek Scriptures has suffered measurably in transmission. Scholar Jack Finegan has stated: "The total number of New Testament manuscripts is very impressive. . . . No other Greek book has anything like this amount of testimony to its text. It is true that there are numerous textual variations among these different New Testament manuscripts, but the majority of them are of a relatively minor character . . . As a matter of fact, it has been estimated by careful students that there are substantial variations in hardly more than a thousandth part of the entire text."—Light from the Ancient Past, page 352.

So long strory short, these "missing texts", or portions thereof, in the Christian Greek Scriptures are not included in the New World Translation because they are not supported in the original Greek text.
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Evidently, then, copyists made some additions to the Greek text of the Bible at times, being more prone to do this than to omit material.
Are you saying that the New World Translation is not inerrant?
I have never heard a JW under any circumstances admit to this and I`ve argued it with quite a few.

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It is entirely true.
Many sects do not want their flock to marry any of a different faith but the JW`s are extremely strict about it.

JW`s disparage most influence outside of their faith.
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Witness of Jah writes: So long strory short, these "missing texts", or portions thereof, in the Christian Greek Scriptures are not included in the New World Translation because they are not supported in the original Greek text.
Thanks again for your quick response.
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May I ask, how do you feel about the jw's common practice of telling their flock to shun those who don't agree 100% with their doctrine?
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Ah yes but what about the Jewish people themselves. If the Mosaic laws are no long applicable by JW beliefs what do most JWs think about the Jewish people and our continued following of the Laws.
We don't think anything about the Jewish people - we just focus on ourselves. If the Jewish people want to continue to follow the Mosaic laws, that is up to them. However, when Jesus came to earth, he said that himself that the Mosaic laws were no longer applicable because a new era of laws were now to be followed, the laws of Christ. These laws were not on a stone tablet, but laws from the heart. However, you may find this hard to accept because Judaism does'nt accept the NT and and neither believed Jesus came to Earth in the first place.
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