Satan information misleading.. (Jesus Christ, priests, ritual, gospel, soul)

[No*s]

Oracle,

That was, um, very detailed...and far more detailed than I could go (I try to remain as closely as possible within the Deposit). Still, it looks like you've thought it through.

[SoulTYPE]

No* I knew most of this but what I did not see in your reply is that HOW the people not of God are experiencing pain in the future.

You referred to Satan as a being. I will leave you to discuss that with oracle and Maize.

[oracle]

This is an example of Egoism within the church------>

Originally Posted by SoulTYPE01

Satan is more at war with Christians than non-Christians. He wars primarily with those not his!

"Satan" is at war with everything in this world. We are all children of God, however most are lost. Those who are "his" are those who overcome the ego, and take on the divine nature which Christ made the example. But, we are all His children.

[SoulTYPE]

Originally Posted by oracle

But, we are all His children.

How so? Not that I am being a dick, I am interested in a description of this.

[No*s]

Originally Posted by SoulTYPE01

No* I knew most of this but what I did not see in your reply is that HOW the people not of God are experiencing pain in the future.

You referred to Satan as a being. I will leave you to discuss that with oracle and Maize.

I'm sorry. I didn't know exactly what you wanted. I thought you'd know a bunch of it, but was clueless as to what it specifically was, so I tried to cover every possible contingent.

Did it answer suficiently what I meant by experiencing God in pain?

Again, I apologize.

[oracle]

Originally Posted by SoulTYPE01

How so? Not that I am being a dick, I am interested in a description of this.

Because you, being a spiritual being that may be aware or asleep, have orginated from God because God created you, you are a piece of God. Everything that exists, are facets "faces" of his expression... We all originate from Him, and therefore we are all a part of His essence. God himself is not just a single being, but a metaphor of ultimate reality, beginning and end, the alpha and omega, the ALL (in no way do I say that no one should relate to Him as Father, but I do so myself, as I take it both literal and metaphorical).
This concept is hard to understand. It is about wholeness, that you, me, and No*s, behind the illusion of our physical bodies, behind the illusion of religious dogma, we are connected to each other (every human being), we all come from the same Divine source and will dissolve back to the same. It is "satan", the ego, SIN, that causes disconnection, division between brethren, in reality death and suffering. And those who sin, and continue to sin being aware that they are sinning (sin that leads to death), live lives of condemnation. The ultimate reality of hell is one who isolates him/herself because of selfishness (ego/satan), and disconnects themselves from God and from every other being. They are alone, cold, naked, starving, flaoting in utter darkness. They famish the flesh but leave the spirit starving. That is the ultimate reality of their existance. But what is sad is that they do not even realize that they ARE ALREADY in hell...being tortured by their own personal egoistic demons (figuratively speaking), being tossed like waves in the wind wherever desire and self-deception takes them. They are asleep in their graves, drunk with their ego, but will rise at the sound of a "trumpet"...

The kingdom of heaven is spread out all over the earth, but people do not see it. It is about wholeness, connection to everyone and everything. It is about embracing everyone and everything around you, instead of thinking with the self. It is about embracing me, No*s, everyone around you, empathetically. That is the Essence of the Divine nature: compassion, generousity, and humility. That in essence, is truth without distortion, without misconception. And when you decide to overcome your own ego, to be reborn in Spirit, to shake off the wine that many are drunk with, when you take off the outer garment (the flesh) and trample over it, the Divine will be awakened in you, your eyes will be opened and you will see and be aware that what I say is true, the distinction between truth and deception will be clear to you...

Originally Posted by oracle

I believe that we should embrace each other in empathy, rather than viewing our own beliefs as being the only answer. We should go beyond ourselves and make endeavors to understand each other, regardless of religious dogma. I think most religions have much truth, and each can bring mankind closer to God. I think peace should be the focus of all three, rather than relentless arguements and petty quibbling.

Here is a poem I wrote years ago. Although it is talking about prejudice of ethnicity, the same applies to the prejudice between religions.
Harmonic Strings

Color, appearance, race.
They are illusions.
A mask concealing reality, our true face.
Pointless apathy against blood and birth.
Are we all not born from mothers' wombs?
Walk on the same earth?

Yet brethren spills brethren's blood.
Pigment of skin justifies.
Blind is the unlawful judge,
Who's evidence is also creed.
Hatred is the silent witness.
Innocence is the righteous plead.

We are musical strings,
Each emitting a separate note.
Harmonically, all stroked brings,
Beauty, sounds soothing to the soul.
Break all but one string,
Nothing's left to play, everything is dull.


With this analogy, perhaps one could understand that the diversity of religions makes life more dynamic. But in the process, people forget that we are all the same, are decendants from the same. Each string on an instrument, however emitting different notes, are all made up of the same material.

The different notes, the dogma in between, is just an illusion: a mask concealing this reality.

[lilithu]

Satan's war against God is for domain or property rights of your soul!

lol! Even in religion, we never get away from the capitalism.

Satan is more at war with Christians than non-Christians. He wars primarily with those not his!

Well, thank Gawd for that! >

HEY, I just realized that there is no devil smiley! We've got to get that fixed!

[oracle]

In reality most of these are true (I took out the ones that werent reasonable), but you have to look at it not only literally, but metaphorically, and with the information I provided you with, you will see this is all true.

The devil will attack you today in one of 5 ways:
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Get Christians back into the world
Disrupt or corrupt worship & doctrine
Cause trouble & division among brethren

Historical victories of Satan:
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Adam and Eve eating forbidden fruit
Enticing God's people to worship idols
Murder of Jesus Christ: Lk 22:3
Every time a Christian gives us on the faith and falls away: 1 Ti 1:18-20
Corruption of doctrine: 1 Ti 4:1-4 "doctrines of demons": Today there are 500 churches!

Satan's war against God is for domain or property rights of your soul!
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God purchased us from Satan with blood: 1 Co 6:20;7:23; Ax 20:28; 1 Pe 1:18; 2 Pe 2:1; Rev 5:9
Satan schemes to bring Christians under damnation of God: 2 Cor 2:11; 1 Pe 5:8; Mt 13:28,39
He sets hidden snares for Christians: 2 Ti 2:26; 1 Ti 3:7

[SoulTYPE]

Originally Posted by oracle

Historical victories of Satan:
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Enticing God's people to worship idols

Do you have any idea whiich idols these were or consist of?

[oracle]

Originally Posted by SoulTYPE01

Do you have any idea whiich idols these were or consist of?

It means materialism, material wealth, things neither living or breathing. The ego entices you to become attatched to material things which have no value or meaning, because they are neither breathing or living. To value something so... More so than another human being or God, I consider this as idolatry.
One may erect graven images, but even if she/he does not, it is the heart itself that committs idolization, by attatching itself to material things, even valuing an object above the life of another. No one can have two masters. For he will love one, and hate the other. Neither can a man ride two horses or shoot one arrow with two bows. You either serve God or you serve mammon.