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Old 07-23-2007, 08:21 PM
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So, did it help?
Giving proper attribution is an ethical matter. I find honest discourse helpful.
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Old 07-23-2007, 08:25 PM
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Yes, I know.
Giving proper attribution is an ethical matter. I find honest discourse helpful.
I was talking about the quote.

And by the way, ALL that I quoted was from Terry Goodkind.
not just the first two lines
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Old 07-23-2007, 09:12 PM
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I was talking about the quote.
And I was talking about ethical discourse.

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And by the way, ALL that I quoted was from Terry Goodkind. not just the first two lines
It never occurred to me that the wording was yours.
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Old 07-23-2007, 10:36 PM
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Sorry I will try to be more concise.


How about this...

Anything can be proven with faith; anthing can be disproved with reason.
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Old 07-23-2007, 10:40 PM
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I figure; God being all-powerful, He should be able to do anything, including disproving His own existence.

So technically; yes.
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Old 07-23-2007, 10:52 PM
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I figure; God being all-powerful, He should be able to do anything, including disproving His own existence.

So technically; yes.
As in

How do I know that god has not bent my thoughts to make me trust my own reasoning?

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I don't believe in god, but I do believe faith or faith in our reasoning, is a vital function of our consciousness.

or say like faith that your eyes are giving you the right info.
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How do I know that god has not bent my thoughts to make me trust my own reasoning?

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I don't believe in god, but I do believe faith or faith in our reasoning, is a vital function of our consciousness.

or say like faith that your eyes are giving you the right info.
That's just it; we're trying the measure the universe with a ruler, which would be pretty hard to begin with.

On top of that it's a ruler we don't really know how to read.

On top of that it may not even be marked correctly.

Which is heaven or hell depending on whether you prefer comedy or accuracy.

(by "ruler" I mean a 1/3 of a yardstick rather than "ruler" as in the guy in charge, although it could probably work either way).
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Your ruler would be reason and faith would be the markings.

I will take faith in that until I prove myself wrong. (or someone else gives me good reason to doubt)
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