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Old 03-19-2004, 02:39 PM
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I have no real answer on this except one that is terminally ill should have the choice to end their own life in a way they see fit.

It's more of a courtesy in my eyes.

But blatant suicide just seems like an extreme that I am not ok with.
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Old 03-19-2004, 02:42 PM
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hard subject this.

I believe that if someone is terminally ill and in such excruciating pain that a "normal" daily life is nigh-on impossible for them, then I'm all for it - they deserve the release from the pain.
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Old 03-19-2004, 05:29 PM
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Here's an odd way to think of it.

A person can "chose" to be put on death row. They "chose" by deciding to commit a crime that is punishable by death. They also get to chose how they will die (though not when).

So... lets make a new law. Any terminal patient in great pain who wants to end that pain by suicide is committing a crime. That crime is punishable by death.

Or, courts could do it the easy way. They could just allow them to commit suicide!

Personally, if I were terminally ill and wanted to die, I would go buy myself a gun and do it "illegally". Then there is no need for anyone to give me permission.
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Here's an odd way to think of it.

A person can "chose" to be put on death row. They "chose" by deciding to commit a crime that is punishable by death. They also get to chose how they will die (though not when).

So... lets make a new law. Any terminal patient in great pain who wants to end that pain by suicide is committing a crime. That crime is punishable by death.

Or, courts could do it the easy way. They could just allow them to commit suicide!

Personally, if I were terminally ill and wanted to die, I would go buy myself a gun and do it "illegally". Then there is no need for anyone to give me permission.
Well the point of Euthanasia is to die using the most easy non gory path.

Going out and buying a gun to kill yourself while having a terminally ill disease is just poposterus. There are certainly more respect ways about going to do this.

This is why many people believe Dr. Kavorkien(sp) was a help rather than a criminal. He helped those wishing to die in old age and terminal illness in a way that most people could agree on as the right way to do it.
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Old 03-19-2004, 06:15 PM
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But what happens when you CAN'T get someone willling to help you. After all, it is still illegal, is it not?

I was being perfectly serious. If I was in that much pain, I was dying anyway, and nobody would help me, I would take care of it myself in any way I could. I wouldn't wait around, dying slowly, just because some court said I didn't have the right to kill myself.
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There are certainly people who make that choice.

A lot of people see this as a choice up to the person. But for others it is a religious debate not unlike that of suicide - which is a Cardinal Sin according to most faiths (I think).

But at the same time, I would imagine that a lot of views would change if it were THEM in the situation and not some unknown statistic, so who knows?

I think the reason it is illegal is because of the religious implications, and not a lot of politicians and legislators are willing to get in that particular ring, if you catch my meaning.

So until the law changes I'm all for doing whatever you feel is right for you.... afterall, no one has to feel your pain but YOU. And it's up to you how you deal with it. Afterall, how can you be arrested if you're no longer with us?

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Please don't shoot yourself.LOL. The rule is, NEVER leave a mess for someone else to clean up. Surely if you are dying of an incurable disease you could find a better way? Perhaps screw yourself to death? I'd be in favour of that. LOL
almost three years ago , my beloved older brother committed suicide. He was mentally ill at the time, as I believe the majority that do commit suicide ( excepting of course the deathly ill) are.
Relating this to religion, why on earth would a loving compassionate and forgiving G-d take revenge on the mentally ill or those in such great pain that are dying anyway. I can't believe that G-d does that, but, that's just me.
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Old 03-21-2004, 07:38 PM
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Explain what you mean by take revenge? I don't believe in God, so I don't believe He does anything, but I'm just curious to know what you meant so we can discuss that too.

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Hmm I have heard of parents seeking Youthinasia...abortions at 200 months...

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Some religions believe that you go to "the camps of hell" for things. Personally, I can' imagine G-d doing such a thing. An infinite punishment ( torture)for a finite sin. Not exactly perfect justice IMO. I see it as G-d being so totally irrationally ****** off that He would act psychotic and exact revenge ( camps of hell) . Not in my belief of G-d, but , then what do I know?
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