Jesus - a sinner? (translation, blood, hell, sinned, God)

[chuck010342]

Originally Posted by pah

The exception to be shown was that Jesus was not a sinner if born as a man.

Try again please

Bob

Jesus was born as a man but not from flesh.

"Flesh gives birth to flesh but spirit gives birth to spirit"

Jesus was born of the spirit. Don't you remember what the angel said to Mary?

[Ronald]

Originally Posted by chuck010342

Jesus was born as a man but not from flesh.

"Flesh gives birth to flesh but spirit gives birth to spirit"

Jesus was born of the spirit. Don't you remember what the angel said to Mary?

I do! And it is not as you suggest.
35 And the angel said to her, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be called holy, the Son of God.

I think you are confusing what the Angel said to Zechariah;
15 for he will be great before the Lord, and he shall drink no wine nor strong drink, and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit, even from his mother’s womb.

Here is Yeshua saying born of the spirit:
5 "In most solemn truth I tell you," replied Jesus, "that unless a man is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the Kingdom of God.

6 Whatever has been born of the flesh is flesh, and whatever has been born of the Spirit is spirit.

7 Do not be astonished at my telling you, ‘You must all be born anew.’

8 The wind blows where it chooses, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it is going. So is it with every one who has been born of the Spirit

[Bright-ness' Shadow]

Originally Posted by chuck010342

Jesus was born as a man but not from flesh.

"Flesh gives birth to flesh but spirit gives birth to spirit"

Jesus was born of the spirit. Don't you remember what the angel said to Mary?

By your second statement, Jesus was not man which contradicts the first statement.

That was simple.

Bob

[SoulTYPE]

Ah, but Jesus was still born as human.



Otherwise it would have been very painful for Mary.

[chuck010342]

okay okay lets do this by the numbers

18This is how the birth of Jesus Christ came about: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be with child through the Holy Spirit.

now "through the holy spirit" doesn't that imply that Jesus was born of the holy spirit and not of the flesh of a man?

[chuck010342]

Originally Posted by pah

By your second statement, Jesus was not man which contradicts the first statement.

That was simple.

Bob

Jesus was a man just born in a different way

[Master Vigil]

Hmmm.... ok jesus was not born of the flesh of man. But he was born of the flesh of a woman. Reminds me of the baptist womans rights lady screaming... "Where did your jesus come from?! Where did your jesus come from?! From god and a woman!!! Man had nothing to do with him." HAHA!!! If jesus was not man, why did mary have to give birth to him? I mean sure, he was conceived by the holy spirit. But was still born a man from a womans womb.

[chuck010342]

Originally Posted by SoulTYPE01

Ah, but Jesus was still born as human.



Otherwise it would have been very painful for Mary.

Jesus was born as a human but he does not have original sin because he was born of the holy spirit and not of the flesh

[chuck010342]

Originally Posted by Master Vigil

Hmmm.... ok jesus was not born of the flesh of man. But he was born of the flesh of a woman. Reminds me of the baptist womans rights lady screaming... "Where did your jesus come from?! Where did your jesus come from?! From god and a woman!!! Man had nothing to do with him." HAHA!!! If jesus was not man, why did mary have to give birth to him? I mean sure, he was conceived by the holy spirit. But was still born a man from a womans womb.

I thank God that man had nothing to do with the birth of Jesus. Men are responsible for wars, killing, and other horrible things. Women usually are the ones who show the most love. Therefore the man who has shown the world the most love should of come from a woman

[Master Vigil]

I dunno, most of the girls I know are pretty evil scandalous individuals. They are able to get me to spend lots of money, on stupid pointless things. And I can't stop myself. Evil!!! They are evil!!!! hahaha... But yes, for the most part, I agree with you. But to admit he was born from a woman, admits he was born of the flesh.