Jesus - a sinner? (translation, blood, hell, sinned, God)

[Ronald]

Originally Posted by Lintu

I was under the impression that some believe Mary was born without original sin, and therefore, Jesus was born without it, too.

Where did you get such an impression? Not in any Bible reading! Anywhere!

Mothers blood and a babies blood never co-mingle. Yeshua did have Perfect Blood, the "Firster" Adam. There was no word to say that in Greek, so we have Second Adam.
Yeshua is the Superior First Adam. Adam created perfect(without sin).

[SoulTYPE]

Jesus did say that we all sin. Well, we do. Jesus said "We all", so that means basically that he was one too.

PS: Sin is inevitable.

[Ronald]

Ro 3:23 since all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
This was Paul, not Yeshua! Yeshua was sinless or you are dead in your sins!

[Lintu]

Originally Posted by Ronald

Where did you get such an impression? Not in any Bible reading! Anywhere!

Mothers blood and a babies blood never co-mingle. Yeshua did have Perfect Blood, the "Firster" Adam. There was no word to say that in Greek, so we have Second Adam.
Yeshua is the Superior First Adam. Adam created perfect(without sin).

I got that impression from listening to other people--clearly not supposed to be authoritative. (I said: some people believe)

I don't know where that came from, either. Mary's immaculate conception, that is.

[booboo]

Hello,

Lintu is right. The Catholics do believe in the Immaculate Conception of the Holy Mother. This was one of the main reasons for the unfortunate schism between the Eastern Orthodox Church and the Catholic Church.

If God so willed, all the people will be united in one faith, but if there was only one faith, then who will seek the Truth? If no one will seek the Truth and God is the Truth, then it defeats the whole purpose of creation.

"7"Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. 8For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened." (Gospel According to St. Matthew 7:7-8)

booboo

[Paw]

Originally Posted by SoulTYPE01

Jesus did say that we all sin. Well, we do. Jesus said "We all", so that means basically that he was one too.

PS: Sin is inevitable.

I agree. Everyone sins, except Allah. However, the Prophets were very lucky in being able not to sin a lot. I wish I could be like them.


P.S. This is not what an angel looks like. Isn't it cool that you can resize them?

[linwood]

If a child dies before being cleaned from original sin that doesn't mean he is damned.

I know it`s OT but your Bible directly contradicts this statement.

The NT makes very clear that the only way to heaven is through Jesus Christ.

[chuck010342]

Originally Posted by pah

Please tell where in scriputure we might find this exception.

It is really quite simple - if Jesus has divine properties, he can not be 100% human.

-pah-

Matthew 1:18

[Bright-ness' Shadow]

Originally Posted by chuck010342

Matthew 1:18

The exception to be shown was that Jesus was not a sinner if born as a man.

Try again please

Bob

[Ronald]

Quote: (Originally Posted by pah)

Please tell where in scriputure we might find this exception.

It is really quite simple - if Jesus has divine properties, he can not be 100% human.

-pah-

You are quite right, pah, He could be one or the other, but not both!
He was born of a woman, flesh and bone, He had perfect blood of His Father God!
He never tainted the Fathers holy blood by not succumbing to temptation and sinning.
Yeshua was 100% man, died as a man was raised by His Father from the dead and was placed at the Right Hand of God. If God wants to bestow divinity on Him, He is able to do so.
The Son of God, our Savior, raised by the Father, seated by God at His right-hand, is worthy of praise.
Php 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is gracious, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthyofpraise, think about these things.