Opposites: Life And Death (reincarnation, mission, doctrine, experience, philosophy)

[Paraprakrti]

I don't understand how your instance shows birth and life to be the same thing. If apparently life exists before birth, (at least in the womb), then the action of taking birth comes from the fact that there is life.

[Ceridwen018]

Kind of, I think.

Think of it this way: Birth is simply a transition from one environment to another. In reality, birth is no different from life. If anything, it is the transition from one phase of life to another--comparable to puberty, really.

What I'm saying, is that birth, death, and life are not three separate things. Birth is a part of life.

[Paraprakrti]

That principle, "life" is the same principle that exists in the womb, at birth, at puberty, at adulthood, and at old age. Birth is a dressing of life; an outer covering.

How are birth, death and life not three separate things?

[Ceridwen018]

Because birth and life are the same thing. Therefore, there are only 2 separate categories: life and death.

[Paraprakrti]

How are birth and life the same thing?

[Ceridwen018]

Because birth is simply something that happens during life. It is an action that is performed during life, and is therefore considered to be within the larger category called life. In the comparison of life and death, birth is as irrelevent as eating dinner--both are actions which are performed during life. They are sub-groups of life, if you will, not equal and separate groups which can be included in a comparison of life to death.

[Paraprakrti]

If birth is an action that is performed during life then your conclusion should be that birth is an action that is performed during life, not that birth is life. That makes no sense.

Although, you do have a point given that birth is not the first appearance of life. In that case it would be better to say that conception is the opposite of death. But I was thinking in relation to the outside world. I was thinking in regards to bodily life beginning outside of the womb.

[Ceridwen018]

If birth is an action that is performed during life then your conclusion should be that birth is an action that is performed during life, not that birth is life. That makes no sense.

Sorry for being confusing. What I meant for all of that was that birth is part of life, and therefore should not be considered separate from it.

that conception is the opposite of death.

Perhaps, but we're just battling semantics then. I think that conception is equal to life.

[SoulTYPE]

LOL, is this a private topic or can anyone reply?

There are no opposites in this. Life and Death are part of the same cycle, so they are not opposites.
The same with birth. Birth, Life, Death is the cycle. IF you believe in reincarnation, then it is continuos. Birth, life, death, then birth, life, death, etc

[cardero]

I think that we should be looking at this in terms of existence. Birth and death are only "entrances" and "exits". I think an entity is continually existing (until that entity does not desire to exist) whether you choose to reside to stay in a spiritual realm or if you choose to incarnate into another physical existence.