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11-06-2004, 07:31 PM
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Is the Lord responsible for people starving in Africa?
Well, is he? If god loves everyone, why does he allow people to live with such suffereing and pain? Why are babies born with horrific diseases? Why? Why? WHY?!
Is it Satan? Well then, why does god allow satan such free reign? Why doesn't god say, "I love these people, they are my children, I hereby declare you powerless, Satan." Basically, this question could also be written as "Is god responsible for evil." Lets hear it!
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The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance. ~Socrates 
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#2
11-06-2004, 07:35 PM
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Weeeell...if you have an omnipotent God, then yes, technically, I think God is responsible for everything, even evil, but at the same time...really, I think the answer is just "sometimes bad stuff happens, who knows why?" And, well, I think things would be better if we spent less time pointing fingers and more time trying to fix things, you know?
Heh, kinda reminds me of a random Jewish saying I like: "Pray as if everything depends on God; act as if everything depends on you."
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צדק צדק תרדף למען תחיה
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11-06-2004, 08:00 PM
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Have you ever considered the possibility that the Lord is seriously challenged when it comes to morality? Maybe he's a little slow when it comes to ethics. It could be that he doesn't yet grasp starvation is a bad thing. After all, look at the bible: it was quite some time before he grasped that slaughtering women and children in warfare was a bad thing. So, I'm sure he'll do something about the evil effects of famine just as soon as he figures out that there are any evil effects.
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Then I came back from where I'd been. My room, it looked the same - but there was nothing left between The Nameless and the name. - Leonard Cohen.
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11-06-2004, 08:03 PM
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OR maybe, people suffer because of thier karma and what they did. Maybe, this has nothing to do with God, but just the way the world works, in balance. Some must be born up high. Some must be born down low. Otherwise, we will never feel thankful for our meal and feel urges to help the starving. we would all be selfish ******** if the world was perfectly equal.
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11-06-2004, 08:03 PM
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Lol, what if god had the mental capacity of a 5 year old?.....Oh hell...
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The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance. ~Socrates
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11-06-2004, 08:06 PM
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I'm going back to my original premise that the Divine is within us and we are responsible for tapping into that. We are responsible for ourselves and we are responsible to help others help themselves. The best aid to a place like Africa is to give them the tools to help themselves. Taking action are the key words.
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#7
11-06-2004, 08:32 PM
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ABSOLUTELY NOT! Man and his yetzer harah/evil inclination are fully to blame.
You are given an opportunity to do something about the suffering, and there-by store up treasure in heaven. This is a great problem with people who know nothing of God especially from the Hebrew perspective. God cares as much for those suffering as you doand He will cover them, but you and I don't have such a covering. This being the case we, you and I are the ones to feel sorry for if we sit idley by and do nothing.
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Jn.5:24 (RSV) Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears my word and believes him who sent me, has eternal life; he does not come into judgement, but has passed from death to life.
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11-06-2004, 08:54 PM
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More seriously, Ceridwen, I have often wondered what would be the outcome if a psychologist were to read the OT and analyze the character of God just like he would analyze a patient. What would that analysis show?
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Then I came back from where I'd been. My room, it looked the same - but there was nothing left between The Nameless and the name. - Leonard Cohen. Last edited by Sunstone; 11-06-2004 at 08:56 PM.
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11-06-2004, 09:08 PM
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11-07-2004, 02:39 PM
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