Is the Lord responsible for people starving in Africa? (moral, hell)

[retrorich]

Originally Posted by carrdero

Actually it is my name with an "ism" at the end. I believe that we are our own religion. That through our individual personality and our own personal perspectives that we are unique BEings deserving of our own belief system. I also believe that this is how GOD sees us.

Thanks! I thought maybe it was a type of Irish Catholicism.

[cardero]

retrorich writes: Thanks! I thought maybe it was a type of Irish Catholicism.

It might BE, I was named after a Catholic priest (true story).


Frubals 4U!!!

[booboo]

Evil? Where?
Where is the evil?

Once we put things in terms of Duality, Good and Evil, Cold and Hot, Black and White, then we blind ourselves from the Truth and Reality.

- One day a man was cutting off the leg of a boy.

- The people shouted, "You wicked human being. Have you no compassion? Have you no love?"

- Many people tried to stop the "wicked" man from doing his act, but the man was so strong that everyone feared him.

- The boy whose leg is being cut off was cursing and shouting and tried his best to avoid such a wicked act. If any of you were there, you will certainly say an evil act is being done. A man cutting off a boy's leg. However, this is due to our ignorance of the facts behind this act. If the man was a surgeon and cutting off the leg is the only way to make the boy survive, then is this act not out of compassion and love?

Suffering is not a bad thing, but neither is it good. If we walk the Jungles of Duality, we will not see the Oceans of Unity, whose face is Reality, that speaks the Truth.

Judge not actions. For we can only see the nutshell. Diamonds are not on the surface, but in the core.

booboo

[Ardhanariswar]

if there is no bad, we cannot appriciate goodness. there is a reason there are hungry people. so we have people to feel compassion for and feed.

i dont think evil and goodness really exist. if it does, its only in the mind. there is positive and negative. but, eh.... i dunno.

[chuck010342]

Originally Posted by retrorich

As I have stated several times in various threads here, If God (who I do not believe exists) is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent, then He is responsible for EVERYTHING, good or bad, that happens in the Universe--including people starving in Africa. However, religious people tend to give God all of the credit for everying GOOD that happens, and none of the blame for BAD things that happen.

nope God gave man kind freedom of choice. Mankind chooses to make other people suffer. Its mankinds problem but God loves us so much that he sent his son to die for us. so he can redeem the few who believe in him.

[huajiro]

The "Bible" has caused much of the suffering in the world. If it hadn't directed so many people "be fruitful and multiply" the population would not be so great, and we could feed everyone.

[chuck010342]

Originally Posted by huajiro

The "Bible" has caused much of the suffering in the world. If it hadn't directed so many people "be fruitful and multiply" the population would not be so great, and we could feed everyone.

that command was givien to the first two people later by noah and his sons.

the bible isn't the cause of suffering the cause is sin.

the bible condems alot of what people do today

[Ceridwen018]

the bible isn't the cause of suffering the cause is sin.

We're not talking about the bible, we're talking about God. because God created Sin, I'd say he is responsible. What does Jesus Christ have to say about that?

[true blood]

Originally Posted by Ceridwen018

We're not talking about the bible, we're talking about God. because God created Sin, I'd say he is responsible. What does Jesus Christ have to say about that?

God created evil. Sin was made by a transgression of a law. A law given by God while in fellowship with man. They were both responsible but I suppose its all perspective. Since God is God one could suggest that since he did not stop the transgression God is responsible. It's impossible to know until the end because the end is better then the beginning.

[huajiro]

Originally Posted by chuck010342

that command was givien to the first two people later by noah and his sons.

the bible isn't the cause of suffering the cause is sin.

the bible condems alot of what people do today

Noah and his sons were told to "get their groove on" to populate the planet. No one ever said to stop after we started killing each other, did they? This is because the Church wants more followers, that is why they don't want homosexual marriages.

The misinterpretation of the "Bible" has caused many "sins".

The "Bible" doesn't condemn a lot of things it should about what people do today, such as its own misuse for personal gain.