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Old 11-07-2004, 09:42 PM
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Rozs writes: Life would be worthless with out God.
I believe every entity’s existence is worthwhile whether they have a REALationship with GOD or not. If you require PROOF I have met some of them right here on this forum.
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Old 11-07-2004, 09:50 PM
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If I met this woman in Africa, I am certain of one thing--having a philosophical discussion with her about why she is starving, did God allow this to happen to her, she chose the state she is in, etc, etc, would not be what she most desperately needed or wanted. What she would want is simply for someone to give her the nourishment she needs and show kindness and compassion to her through their actions. It's easy for us to sit in our comfortable chairs, in our comfortable houses, in front of our computer screens, and discuss all this to amuse ourselves intellectually, but it does absolutely nothing for the actual pain and suffering that is going on in this world at this very moment....

Ok, I've said enough! Sorry about the little ranting session.
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I see your point carrdero.
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Ceridwen018 check it out!

I seriously thought about posting it as a reply in your thread but did not want to HOG your thread so I posted my on thread.

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum...ed=1#post49694
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why because this is a fallen sinful world. People suffer in this world but one day there will be no more suffering
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As I have stated several times in various threads here, If God (who I do not believe exists) is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent, then He is responsible for EVERYTHING, good or bad, that happens in the Universe--including people starving in Africa. However, religious people tend to give God all of the credit for everying GOOD that happens, and none of the blame for BAD things that happen.
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Old 11-09-2004, 10:26 AM
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I think people BEing charitable is a fine way to help people who are less fortunate than us.
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Old 11-09-2004, 10:54 AM
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Actually it is my name with an "ism" at the end. I believe that we are our own religion. That through our individual personality and our own personal perspectives that we are unique BEings deserving of our own belief system. I also believe that this is how GOD sees us.
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I think Hope hit the nail on the head. If everyone is so concerned about the suffering we should do something about. Perhaps G-d isn't punishing the people of Africa maybe he's testing us ever think about that?? We can not truely understand the good and beautiful of the world with out the pain to go with it. For a better perspective watch "Bruce Almighty"


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why because this is a fallen sinful world. People suffer in this world but one day there will be no more suffering
Ya know chuck there's an old Jewish saying that when G-d essentially "fires" the satan that the people of the world will weep because no longer are we able to get any closer to G-d and the Divine than we will be at that point. The fight and the journey will have ended and we will be sad because of it.
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