Is the Lord responsible for people starving in Africa? (moral, hell)

[Jaymes]

Yes. If he is in control of everything, then he is in control of evil as well. He's allowing it to happen.

[Ceridwen018]

People who blame GOD or Satan or others for their positions in life are people who do not take PERSONAL responsibility for their existences.

Your statement here brings out an interesting point. many Christians, it seems, hold firm belief that God causes good, while satan causes evil. I disagree with that on the premise that if god has power over Satan, he therefore has power over hell and is then at least indirectly responsible for it. Anyhow, your point is not "God causes good while humans and satan cause evil" but rather, that humans are responsible for both the good AND the bad. This makes much more sense.

So then ,carrdero, are you a deist?

There are many things that “seem” to BE unfair or INCORRECT or impractical but we cannot K(NOW) or judge exactly what kind of life a physical entity has planned/chosen for themselves.

I agree that this is true to an extent, but there are some things which are so blatantly unfair that they can cause one to seriously question a god's judgement. For instance, how about a woman who lives in Ethiopia, and finally dies of starvation? How is that fair? What about a small baby who is born with harlequin syndrome? How is that fair? To rephrase the question, what purpose could god have for such incredible suffering?

We're getting a little off topic here I think. You obviously believe that god has a plan for each of our lives, and that he is the one who created that plan. That said, do you believe that he is 'responsible' for the starving people in Africa, or on broader terms, evil?

Jensa, I agree with you.

[cardero]

Ceredwin016 writes: For instance, how about a woman who lives in Ethiopia, and finally dies of starvation? How is that fair? What about a small baby who is born with harlequin syndrome? How is that fair? To rephrase the question, what purpose could god have for such incredible suffering?

I believe this is our PURPOSE and not GOD’s. If it was GOD’s PURPOSE are existences would not BE our own. As far as why someone would choose a PURPOSE like the examples you gave we can only speculate but we shouldn’t judge.

Ceredwin016 writes: You obviously believe that god has a plan for each of our lives, and that he is the one who created that plan.

I do not believe that GOD has a plan for each of our lives but I believe we have a plan for each of our lives and I think in some ways that plan could and does extend into other’s lives as well.



We’re all in this together.

-Robert DeNiro from the movie BRAZIL

[Ardhanariswar]

ya. i bring up my point earlier. If there were no starving people, we could not help them. But there are, and we should help them. it fosters a good wellbeing and cumminity for the better of humanity.

[Scott1]

Originally Posted by carrdero

Every decision/PURPOSE/challenge/choice is our own.

I'm confused.... so the starving people in Africa made a decision/choice to starve and watch their children die?

[Hope]

This is one of those discussions that keeps popping up and always goes in circles. Ah, my aching head!

But, seriously, the issue shouldn't always be, Is God responsible for this, is He responsible for that. He gave us the capacity to make the world a better place if we choose to, if we just get off our butts and do it. If more of us actually cared about the suffering in this world, I think there would be a lot less of it. Unfortunately, the cruel and apathetic people in the world seem to far outnumber the 'Mother Theresa's' of the world. God isn't our enemy--we are our own enemy.

[cardero]

SOGFFP writes: I'm confused....

That’s okay.

SOGFFP writes : so the starving people in Africa made a decision/choice to starve and watch their children die?

Yes if that is their decision and their PURPOSE just as it is their decision or choice to experience a life in a location of resourceful prosperity.

Why they would plan an existence/PURPOSE/agenda like this, again I must reiterate, we can only speculate and not judge.

[Hope]

Originally Posted by carrdero

That’s okay.


Yes if that is their decision and their PURPOSE just as it is their decision or choice to experience a life in a location of resourceful prosperity.

Why they would plan an existence/PURPOSE/agenda like this, again I must reiterate, we can only speculate and not judge.

I don't think the said 'starving woman in Africa' would appreciate it if you told her this.

[Rozs]

In the book of Job, God permitted Satan to test Job. But it doesn't mean that God is evil. Please read the book of Job. Life would be worthless with out God. Please read the Bible for you to be enlightened.