If God Loves Us All... (Jesus, moral, salvation, reincarnation)

[Ronald]

Ro 5:8 But God shows his love for us in that whilewewereyetsinners Christ died for us.

[Watcher]

What I still don't understand is.....Why would a loving god condemn people who never heard of the Christian religion, or were raised on different beliefs? Are isolated tribes in the jungle, or islands in the pacific just going to go to hell because they never heard about the religion?

[skills101]

Exactly, Watcher. A god who gives people freedom of will, as a gift to be respected everywhere, but then punishes them when they use it? I can't find the sense in it.

[cardero]

Mister Emu writes: Yes the Lord loves us all.The Lord is also Just, He will judge everyone

I do not think I could live my life accordingly (they way it was designed to BE lived) in expectation of someone constantly judging me. I do not encourage my physical REAlationships this way I do not expect/accept it if I form a REALationship with GOD/Jesus.

[Mister Emu]

What I still don't understand is.....Why would a loving god condemn people who never heard of the Christian religion

Rom. 2:12

As many have sinned without the law, shall also perish without the law; and as many have sinned with the law shall be judged by the law.

To me this says if you sin not knowing the law, the law will not be used against you, but if you do know the law you will be judged by it.

I personally believe the people who have never heard the Gosple get a chance to accept Christ after death.

[cardero]

Skills101 writes: Then why send the "bad" people to Hell? Doesn't He "forgive" all for their sins? What's your opinion?

A god who gives people freedom of will, as a gift to be respected everywhere, but then punishes them when they use it? I can't find the sense in it.

I believe that GOD LOVES us UNCONDITIONALLY which means that there are not any conditions that are applied to this LOVE. I also believe that GOD has given us free will. When you put these two sentences together there does not really leave too much room for judgment/obeying/Hell/commandments/servants/wraith/sin, does there? I do not think GOD interferes with our lives until we ask GOD for guidance. If we do not recognize/call upon/find/worship GOD at this moment I believe that this LOVE is still implied.

[Lightkeeper]

I agree that unconditional love doesn't judge.

[Ronald]

The righteous of all nations will share in the world to come. Rabbinic writing.

[Paraprakrti]

Of course, God loves us all unconditionally. The profound thing about that "unconditionally" is the fact that we, as spirit-souls, are constitutionally unconditioned. God loves us, as we are. The problem lies in that we identify that we are something else. In other words, although God loves as we are, we don't know who we are. We suffer due to ignorance. God is just letting us remain in the conceptions we identify with. Man proposes, God disposes. Self realization is realizing that we have no business but to seek to live in our relationship with God. We suffer whenever we are not doing this. We send ourselves to hell. God loves us enough to give us that liberty.

[Ceridwen018]

God loves us enough to give us that liberty.

What? That doesn't sound like love at all to me! Someday if I have kids, I'm not going to let them play in the street because that's "their liberty". No, I am going to give them guidance as a parent should and make them play within the safety of the yard.

If god loved us, he would take care of us instead of throwing us in the lions pit and watching to see how we fend for ourselves. He gives us tools like ignorance, doubt, hate, and an inability to find self-realization, and then sips his lemonade as he watches us all fight to the death!