Old Souls, New Souls, and Spirit (rejecting, Creator, Earth, reincarnate)

[Super Universe]

The soul is an independant and eternal energy being, a God fragment, separate from the human personality but still attached to it. If you think of your body as a vehicle then your soul is in the passenger seat, along for the ride, giving you options and suggestions while your personality does all the driving of the body.

Spirit is the element of divine energy that gives life. In this universe spirit gives life to RNA/DNA. Some like to say that inanimate objects like rocks have their own spirit. That is like saying that the bones in your body have their own spirit when each individual living cell has it's own element of spirit energy and not the dead inanimate things in your body, on the earth, or in the universe. Your body as a whole does not have a spirit.

Old souls should be no different than new souls but simply because they are old they are different, and there lies the problem because there should be no old souls below the 5th dimension.

When new, souls attach to a chosen basic biologic (animals) to get a primitive, basic personality. If the soul approves of this personality it will keep it after the death of the biologic. If the soul does not approve then it will recycle itself back into another biologic of the same level until if finds a basic personality that it wishes to join with.

The soul should look for a personality that has a nice mixture of personality elements and isn't controlled by one or two. Souls first find a basic personality (animal) then move up to human to find a more complex personality to add to theirs in their pursuit to ascend to the 5th dimension and eventually become an evolved, mature, universal being.

The problems happen when a soul joins with a human personality with over bearing traits. The soul may then ascend from the 3rd to the 4th dimension with this personality but it won't be allowed into the 5th so it has no choice but to bounce back and forth between the lower dimensions (3rd and 4th), continually rejecting and adding personalities in a desperate effort to build one that will be allowed in the 5th.

The 5th dimension is the first major goal on the way to heaven. There the soul will be taught a more advanced theory of the universe and learn to do many powerful things, that's why a selfish personality isn't even allowed access there. But first, a soul has to get there on it's own.

Old souls are stuck in a cycle. They have chosen an undeserving personality and then have to try and breed it out by adding other personalities so they reincarnate back into a human to try again, and again, and again, and the childish innocence of the new soul is lost so long ago.

New souls are souls that come directly from God. They get their animal experience and are in their first human experience. The humans hosting a new soul tend to have most, if not all, of these characteristics:
-tends to be introverted, meek
-will sacrifice it's own well being (freedom, money, position, promotion, on occasions it's own life...) for the benefit of others
-does not stay for long in groups, tires of there rules and leaves for freedom and new experiences
-appreciattes it's own freedom and will not sacrifice it for long, or for money or possessions.
-generally avoids addiction
-has own sense of what's important independant and different from others, possessions are not looked upon as more important than knowledge
-seeks wisdom through life experience and knowledge sources (books, internet, college...)
-appreciates peace and serenity, avoids drama when possible, puts people first even before job accomplishment - depending on the job
-attracted to all life, forests, flower gardens, and usually grows own vegetables and has one or more fruit trees
-generally has pets
-has an internal distrust of other humans because their decisions are based on selfishness and other humans do not consider what's good for the whole and their decisions are driven by emotion instead of logic
-appreciattes art and music, and not just the top 40

Certainly each individual new soul has variations in the degree of these personality traits and more importantly the traits described above are those the being would show when given the perfect situation.

For example, if there was a war and a new soul human was drafted into the army they very well might be extroverted and uncaring for others, but long after the war is over they would find their true nature.

None of this is for you to judge others with because even a mother does not truly know every aspect of their growing and maturing child. This is only to judge yourself with.

New souls are expected to ascend to the 5th dimension quickly because they have a basic (animal) personality that tends toward the above traits. They do not have overbearing personality traits that put self before the whole. Even the meek have some anger and selfishness in their personality but they tend to control them and not allow them to cause drama and harm to others.

Old souls are considered "lost".

[Anti-World]

Is this a fantasy story, science fiction, or is it based on evidence that you havn't revealed?

[Super Universe]

What evidence is there for any of this that I can or would show you?

Can I prove you have a soul? No. Can I prove another dimension exists? No.

The existence of an incredibly complex universe is proof of a Creator yet some refuse to believe it. They think a million needles create themselves and stack themselves in the perfect order, end to end, one atop another perfectly balanced.

It's your choice, believe it or believe something else.

[Halcyon]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

The existence of an incredibly complex universe is proof of a Creator yet some refuse to believe it. They think a million needles create themselves and stack themselves in the perfect order, end to end, one atop another perfectly balanced.

SU, look at this picture

Do you think those rocks sculpted and stacked themselves?

Do you think God placed them as is?

Or do you think they are the product of natural processes and that if those natural processes had been ever so slightly different, that those rocks would look different too?

[Super Universe]

Sodium Chloride tends to form cubes. Suns and planets form spheres.

The rock did not extrude, sculpt, and stack itself. Internal pressure did that. God does need to place any rocks because the universe has a system of laws that control these things and maintains the balance of energy and matter.

You're not suggesting that the rock created the physical laws that control it's tendency to form into square columns, are you?

[Halcyon]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

You're not suggesting that the rock created the physical laws that control it's tendency to form into square columns, are you?

No, i am attempting to show how your analogy about the needles is a little off.

Originally Posted by Super Universe

The existence of an incredibly complex universe is proof of a Creator yet some refuse to believe it. They think a million needles create themselves and stack themselves in the perfect order, end to end, one atop another perfectly balanced.

See, if God doesn't need to be involved in the creation of the giant's causeway, then He doesn't need to be involved in the creation of anything else, the universe's "system of laws" does that just fine.
The universe doesn't need God to be complex, complexity can simply be the product of quite a simple interplay of physical laws, as with the giant's causeway.

[Super Universe]

My analogy is a little off? Of course it is, that's why it's an analogy. If I wanted to give you a perfect example of how incredibly precise the universe is I would use the universe itself but some people just aren't impressed with the precision of the atom down to .00000007. They think it's just an accident.

The universe doesn't need God? You think it's over, the beginning? You think there was this bang and then everything formed perfectly from that?

The universe that your scientists see is only a fraction of what is truly out there in the 3rd dimension. Everything that exists, including the eleven separate dimensions, exists because God creates it at every moment. If God were to stop releasing the energy that creates the multi-verse then it would all disappear as if it never existed.

Big bangs happened all over the 3rd dimension, not just in one place. They are the result of the God energy becoming more dense and slowing it's frequency. Research string theory if you wish to know more about it.

[meogi]

I don't see how God is related to string theory at all. String theory is just math that connects quantum physics to 'big' physics, in order to reconcile some discrepencies that the two were having with each other. It's purely math. (And so far, unobserved.)

Originally Posted by Super Universe

You think there was this bang and then everything formed perfectly from that?

I think there was a big bang and then everything formed as a result of that, perfectly or not. I'm not quite sure what you mean by "the precision of the atom down to .00000007," so I will refrain from commenting further until I know what 'precision' means to you.

Also, what's the difference between God energy and regular energy? If it's just where the energy came from, you havn't answered the question; you're just asserting your own belief. It's not very convincing, and from your statement above (post #3), it sounds like you don't care...