Old Souls, New Souls, and Spirit (rejecting, Creator, Earth, reincarnate)

[Super Universe]

Already ascended beings who have made it to the 5th dimension and higher are the ones who consider old souls "lost". This does not mean that the old souls will never make it to the 5th dimension it's just that before they do they have to fix a lot of bad karma.

The old souls do come back to the 3rd dimension but it's not with the intention of teaching new souls, it's because they essentially have no other choice.

It's the new souls that humans should learn from because they refuse to get caught up in your competition, one against another.

Humble yourself. Don't make possessions your priority. Smile more often. Appreciate art and beauty. Treat your children as the priceless beings they are. Seek knowledge, become wise. Open your mind wherever it is shut. Each day identify your mood and assess the cause of it, don't be controlled by your emotions, instead control them.

This does not mean you should become a Vulcan, avoiding your feelings, just that you should know why you lash out at a co-worker when it's really something else that is bothering you.

[gnostic]

Einstein's theory of relativity and the quantum physics have been proven as the facts. String Theory has not being proven yet, and different theorists are still debating over which theory is the right one.

11th dimension universe have not been proven yet, beyond these theorists' dreams. And String Theory is still yet to uniify relativity-quantum physics.

There was a documentary last year, in 2 or 3 parts about String Theory. It was awful, and only had managed confuse me more about String Theory, as well as bore me to tears. It was boring because it kept repeating the same thing over and over again about everything. Nothing was new in the next part(s).

[Dirty Penguin]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

My analogy is a little off? Of course it is, that's why it's an analogy. If I wanted to give you a perfect example of how incredibly precise the universe is I would use the universe itself but some people just aren't impressed with the precision of the atom down to .00000007. They think it's just an accident.

There's nothing wrong with pefect kaos

Originally Posted by Super Universe

The universe doesn't need God?

Nope.....First off the (god) concept has not been proven. You are assuming.

Originally Posted by Super Universe

Everything that exists, including the eleven separate dimensions, exists because God creates it at every moment.

If we are limited to the supposed 3 or dimensions then surely you can offer some proof that the other 8 exist. Unless you are speculating.....

Originally Posted by Super Universe

If God were to stop releasing the energy that creates the multi-verse then it would all disappear as if it never existed.

Where's the proof?

Originally Posted by Super Universe

Big bangs happened all over the 3rd dimension, not just in one place. They are the result of the God energy becoming more dense and slowing it's frequency. Research string theory if you wish to know more about it.

Originally Posted by Super Universe

Researching or watching it on the Science Channel won't make it true.

"The problem with string theory is that the strings are fantastically smaller than atoms and, therefore, impossible to detect in any conceivable laboratory experiment."

"Since we appear to live in a universe with a mere four dimensions - three of space and one of time - string theorists have been forced to postulate the existence of six extra space dimensions "rolled up" so small we have overlooked them. "
http://www.redorbit.com/news/space/1...ing/index.html

Postulate = to claim or assume the existence or truth of, esp. as a basis for reasoning or arguing.

[Ozzie]

The universe doesn't need God?

The universe is what is. Can you imagine a universe greater than the one that is?

[eudaimonia]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

For over 100 years the best scientists have been working on a unified field theory, something that sensibly combines quantum and relative physics. String theory is not "just math" any more than you are "just genes".

Unfortunately, it is "just math", or rather just a hypothesis at this point. There is no string theory, if theory is held to mean something that has survived substantial testing.

You're unsure what I mean by the precision of the atom down to .00000007? The makeup of the atom is precise to such an incredible degree (something like .0000007, I don't remember the exact amount) that even the slightest difference, plus or minus, would not allow any atom to maintain it's shape. It's components would simply fly away.

This assumes that those physical constants even could be different. As far as I know, this has never been shown to be the case.

However, if the constants were different, there simply wouldn't be atoms. Matter would look like something else. And there may be exotic, unknown forms of matter that don't exist today, but would exist if those constants were different.

Disbelieving in a Creator of the universe means that a person believes that the atom not only created itself

Does believing in a Creator mean that a person believes that the Creator created himself?

but did so to an impossible degree of precision.

Whatever exists, does so to a high degree of precision. That's what it is for anything to exist at all.

Some think that given infinite time a universe would create itself but that is not logical, if a universe attempts to form and fails on the first try then there is no second try. Game over.

You should look into another hypothesis floating around the scientific community that bubble universes that spawn new bubble universes (from inside of black holes or similar collapsed spacetime) might spawn universes with different physical constants. This could lead to a multiplicity of universes, some of which have constants that allow atoms to exist. There might be millions, or even googleplexes, of tries.

The universe would have to form within specific guidelines and in a specific order, like a needle creating itself, then creating another and stacking themselves perfectly, one atop another, end to end.

And those millions of other universes would also have their own "specific guidelines and specific order", and so each time the order would appear like amazing coincidence, but viewed together one would see no coincidence at all, just differences.


eudaimonia,

Mark

[michel]

Originally Posted by meogi

I don't see how God is related to string theory at all. String theory is just math that connects quantum physics to 'big' physics, in order to reconcile some discrepencies that the two were having with each other. It's purely math. (And so far, unobserved.)

Oh no.......not string theory again............. Big bangs, I can understand, strings................

Also, what's the difference between God energy and regular energy? If it's just where the energy came from, you havn't answered the question; you're just asserting your own belief. It's not very convincing, and from your statement above (post #3), it sounds like you don't care...

Maybe there isn't any difference; maybe we each interpret that energy from our own perspective (The scientist, as some natural energy), which the theist as from some deity/ies.......is it that important?

SU, you talk about dimensions - now I tend to go cross eyed when people do that, because I would love to know what you have seen, or have experienced to make you believe in them?....I also am not convinced about the start at animals, and working our way "up" - though I am prepared to believe it, I often wonder if we are not being rather arrogant about considering ourselves to be so much "better" than them........

[Super Universe]

Gnostic:
String theory, like any new theory, is not well defined. It is still in it's infancy. And other dimensions haven't been proven either, but then, what proof would there ever be of another dimension?

You may want a being to appear before you as proof of other dimensions and ascended beings but they don't need to prove anything to you.

Dregod07:
There's nothing wrong with perfect chaos? That depends, if your goal is a variety of lifeforms then you must have some organization to create the environment necessary for those lifeforms to exist.

You don't need God? That's your choice. God is not an assumption for me. I know it more than I know anything else. I know because it is my purpose to know.

Sigh... You need proof for everything. Can you prove to me that you've ever been in love? How would you feel if I discounted the feelings you felt as "perhaps just a mild case of stomach flu?"

There is no proof that anyone can ever show YOU that God exists. You know this. I know this. So why are you wasting my time?

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by michel

Oh no.......not string theory again............. Big bangs, I can understand, strings................

Maybe there isn't any difference; maybe we each interpret that energy from our own perspective (The scientist, as some natural energy), which the theist as from some deity/ies.......is it that important?

SU, you talk about dimensions - now I tend to go cross eyed when people do that, because I would love to know what you have seen, or have experienced to make you believe in them?....I also am not convinced about the start at animals, and working our way "up" - though I am prepared to believe it, I often wonder if we are not being rather arrogant about considering ourselves to be so much "better" than them........

The strings are the key. They are tuned strings that the Great Musician plays to create the song of everything. The notes condense into hydrogen or carbon or silicon, creating all the elements and energy.

Think of a central sphere (non-space/time, aka heaven), then eleven separate layers of sphere's surrounding it like the skin of an orange. Now instead of calling the layers dimensions call them by a more accurate description, densities.

Central Sphere, heaven, abode of God and enlightened beings, home of the seven giant black body gravity engines, zero density, non-space/time
1st Density - home of the angels, genetic designers, and other powerful ascended beings, extremely high frequency strings (God energy), extremely slow universal time
2rd Density, extremely high frequency strings, very slow universal time
3th Density, very high frequency strings, slow universal time
4th Density, very high frequency strings, slow universal time
5th Density, very high frequency strings, slow universal time
6th Density, medium frequency strings, medium universal time
7th Density, medium frequency strings, medium universal time
8th Density, first realm of ascended beings, home of Christ who controls the doorway to the other densities, medium frequency strings, fast univ