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Old 04-12-2007, 10:00 AM
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I think that you're wrong about this. Jewish heritage passed through the mother. That is, if a Jewish man married a foriegn woman, that child would not be a Jew.
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According to Halakha (Jewish law), only a convert or a child born to a Jewish mother is counted as Jewish. A child with a Jewish father and a non-Jewish mother is considered a non-Jew. Although an infant conversion might be contemplated in some circumstances (such as in the case of adopted children or children whose parents convert), children who convert would typically be asked if they want to remain Jewish after reaching religious adulthood, which is 12 years old for a girl, 13 for a boy. This standard is applied within Orthodox Judaism, which accepts Halakha as normative, and Conservative which also accepts Halakha, but with a different interpretation.
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Old 04-12-2007, 01:09 PM
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My goodness, Mary was a Jew, too and not a foreignor! According to scholars she also came from David's line!
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Old 04-13-2007, 07:30 AM
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We are clear "jewish" is a religion not a cultural Backround IE: im Italian and irish im not italian irish and christian...

That is clear right?

And his blood line....

Through Heritage O_O he is still Jew.. and even then religion was a choice..(mostly)
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Old 04-13-2007, 09:28 AM
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We are clear "jewish" is a religion not a cultural Backround IE: im Italian and irish im not italian irish and christian...

That is clear right?

And his blood line....

Through Heritage O_O he is still Jew.. and even then religion was a choice..(mostly)
"Jewish" also refers to both a cultural background and a racial background.
Ancient Judaism is not the same as modern Judaism. In ancient Judaism, the culture was based upon the "household," or kin-group. That kin-group was racially and culturally based. What the genaeology about Jesus shows is that Jesus was a member of the kin-group that called itself Jewish. And the religion of that particular kin-group was also called "Jewish."
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Old 04-13-2007, 09:52 AM
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Jesus Himself was a Galilean or resident of Galilee (Matthew 26:69; John 7:41), and a Judahite or descendent of the Tribe of Judah.
How much impact does his lineage have on the value of his teachings?
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Old 04-13-2007, 10:45 AM
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It has no impact on the inherent value of his teaching, but it did impact the culture that produced Christianity. Cultural continuity is extrememly important in the propagation and credibility of a cultural mythos, such as developed from the Jesus teachings. Had the lineage not been there, Jesus would never have been seen as credible to those who carried on the ministry.
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Had the lineage not been there, Jesus would never have been seen as credible to those who carried on the ministry.
That makes sense. It just strikes me as odd that a message from God intended for ALL humanity would be communicated using a method so dependent on particular cultural considerations, because those so often act as barriers to acceptance - as your explanation demonstrates.
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Jesus never taught his disciples not to be Jews. He never told his apostles to convert from being a Jew. They remained Jews until they died, and they believed Jesus to be their Messiah and The Son of God.
I can't believe how many Christians don't know this.
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Apostles...
Like others were called to follow christ
Definition of Christian :
following the teachings or manifesting the qualities or spirit of Jesus Christ
What did the apostles do?
Apostles followed the teachings of Jesus Christ
Therefore 1 + 1 = Christian O_O
.. so in definition... Apostles did not Die Jewish.. They died Christians......
Back on track....
Time Magazine says:
". . The entire furnishing of his mind was the gift to him of his Jewish heritage. . . . Jesus was a Jew — in blood, in loyalty, in mental outlook, in his criticism of Jewry, in his positive message. . . . "
Not that i look at times for my Religious Answers.. But i believe Scripture is rather Clear.. In all senses Jesus was Jewish
Simple id say!
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