Islam vs Buddism (ritual, testimony, rejecting, mystic, virtual)

[Trey of Diamonds]

Boy, I really hesitate using the Islam in the title line as I don't consider the extremist view of Al Qa'ida as all that Islamic. I believe Islam can be just as peaceful as Christianity and Christianity can be just as violent and brutal as Islam. Peace and Violence are factors of Mankind and any religion of man will have both within its potential. Anyway, this certainly shows that Al Qa'ida's goal is not a Middle East without Western influence but rather World Domination.

Anyone want to discuss the goals of Al Qa'ida vs the goals of Islam. Or even the goals of Christian Reconstructionism vs Christianity, after all, the Reconstructionists seek World Domination with a Christian Theocracy.

Original article


Terrorists group's threat raises Dalai Lama alert

Security surrounding the Dalai Lama has been tightened after reports of an attempt by the al-Qa'ida-linked terrorist organisation Lashkar-e-Toiba to assassinate the exiled Tibetan spiritual leader.
A three-tier security ring has been thrown around the 72-year-old Buddhist head, who lives at Dharamsala, in the Himalayan foothills, Indian police spokesman Prem Lal said.
All those approaching the exiled Tibetan chief will be closely watched by highly trained Tibetan security guards as well as heavily armed deployments of Indian police.
Visitors are being body-searched before being allowed to approach him.
The Dalai Lama is scheduled to make a widely anticipated 11-day visit to cities and regional centres across Australia in early June, making both free and ticketed appearances at public lectures, blessings and teaching sessions. Before that, he will visit the US.
Superintendent Lal said police had been alerted by central intelligence agencies to the reported plot by Lashkar-e-Toiba to kill the Dalai Lama "on the directions of a foreign organisation", which he declined to name, but is assumed to be al-Qa'ida.
In a recent document, Osama bin Laden denounced "pagan Buddhism" as part of his general attack on anything not Islamic.
The assassination threat picked up by Indian authorities is thought to be based on bin Laden's denunciation and the extremist jihadi movement's hatred for anything and anyone that is not Muslim.
Lashkar-e-Toiba is believed to be al-Qa'ida's agent in South Asia and has been involved in virtually every major terrorist attack in India.
Indian authorities recently heightened the security surrounding India's political leader, Sonia Gandhi, and members of her high-profile family following intelligence reports that they were on the extremist movement's hit list. Mrs Gandhi now travels the country in armed motorcades similar to those that carry the country's head of state, President Abdul Kalam.
The heavy security cordon thrown around the Dalai Lama at the Dharamsala exile where he has lived since fleeing Tibet is in sharp contrast to the normally relaxed atmosphere that pervades the town and is testimony of the extent to which Islamic terrorism is affecting even remote parts of the world.
As police disclosed the threat to the Dalai Lama, Indian officials drafted a strong declaration on terrorism in South Asia for leaders attending the South Asian Association for Regional Co-operation summit beginning in New Delhi today.
Indian foreign secretary Shivshankar Menon said the draft declaration would discuss "not only about implementing what we have already agreed to, but to see what further action we, in thesub-region, can take against terrorism".
There are suggestions that leaders at the eight-nation summit will consider extending throughout Asia the joint mechanism to deal with terrorism recently established between India and Pakistan.
The mechanism involves close co-operation on all matters relating to terrorism and a regular exchange of intelligence.
Sri Lanka is particularly keen to see an integrated strategy that would assist it in its war against the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam, or Tamil Tigers. Colombo wants SAARC members to work with it to defeat the Tigers.
Similarly, India wants all eight SAARC nations to help it defeat the Lashkar-e-Toiba group and to pursue a campaign against the terrorist movement. But many Pakistanis see LeT fighters as heroes.

[maro]

Originally Posted by Trey of Diamonds

I believe Islam can be just as peaceful as Christianity and Christianity can be just as violent and brutal as Islam. World

that was funny
do yo refer to the fact that the majority of muslims are fanatic terrorists and the majority of christians are peaceful civilized people ?

well, are you interested to revise history with me ? or just take a look only at the recent events ?

[MysticSang'ha]

I'm not surprised.

But security around the Dalai Lama has been this high since he became such a well-known public figure. We can mostly point to his acceptance of the Nobel Peace Prize for his campaign for human rights, and his very public stance against the Chinese occupation of Tibet has angered some folk for a while now. So, body searches have been the norm since the early '90s.

I'm a little confused with the OP and the title. Can you explain a little further, Trey?



Peace,
Mystic

[lilithu]

I have no doubt that bin Laden and al Qaida are intolerant of Buddhism, just as they are intolerant of anything other than their particular version of Islam.

Even so, I find it odd that al Qaida would make a point of targeting the Dalai Lama. And I wonder how credible the threat really is. That is, if one wanted to make al Qaida seem as extreme and irrational as possible, one way to do it would be to start an unsubstantiated rumour that they were planning on killing the Dalai Lama, who is seen by most as an icon of peace and tolerance. I don't see anything in the article that supports this particular fear, so I'm a bit skeptical.

[lilithu]

Originally Posted by maro

that was funny
do yo refer to the fact that the majority of muslims are fanatic terrorists and the majority of christians are peaceful civilized people ?

well, are you interested to revise history with me ? or just take a look only at the recent events ?

I believe that Trey was specifically rejecting this stereotype. Why don't you try rereading his post?

[Trey of Diamonds]

Originally Posted by maro

that was funny
do yo refer to the fact that the majority of muslims are fanatic terrorists and the majority of christians are peaceful civilized people ?

well, are you interested to revise history with me ? or just take a look only at the recent events ?

Well, I guess I didn't put that well, sorry. I spent many years in the Middle East and found Muslims to be peaceful people. I have many Muslim friends and often find shame in the ignorance of the American people concerning world cultures. My statement was meant to say I believe the two religions are virtually the same in their potential for either peace of violence.

I'd be glad to discuss History, it's one of my favorite subjects.

[not4me]

I really hesitate using the Islam in the title line as I don't consider the extremist view of Al Qa'ida as all that Islamic.

So why can i see the word "Islam" in the title?

that was funny
do yo refer to the fact that the majority of muslims are fanatic terrorists and the majority of christians are peaceful civilized people ?

Islam can be as peaceful as christianity, Christianity can be as violent and brutal as Islam!! How great!!

[Trey of Diamonds]

Originally Posted by lilithu

I have no doubt that bin Laden and al Qaida are intolerant of Buddhism, just as they are intolerant of anything other than their particular version of Buddhism.

Even so, I find it odd that al Qaida would make a point of targeting the Dalai Lama. And I wonder how credible the threat really is. That is, if one wanted to make al Qaida seem as extreme and irrational as possible, one way to do it would be to start an unsubstantiated rumour that they were planning on killing the Dalai Lama, who is seen by most as an icon of peace and tolerance. I don't see anything in the article that supports this particular fear, so I'm a bit skeptical.

Very possible but since it is from the Lashkar-e-Toiba in Southeast Asia rather than an Arab group I think it could be legit. Still, you raise a good point.