Who Believe the Earth is 6000 Years Old??? (Jesus, reject, Moses)

[Dirty Penguin]

Originally Posted by s2a

Oh c'mon nutty...tell me those estimates weren't predicated upon the "questionable" C14 methods? Heck, they're practically debunked by Creationists!

Tell me that those estimates were based on perhaps: Stratigraphy and Seriation; or Dendrochronology; or other "wild" radiocarbon methods; or crazy methods like obsidian hydration, potassium-argon, or fission track...

Be fair to creationists, and allow them to at least catch up enough to scientific disciplines that have arisen/developed within the past one hundred years or so...multiple confirmations of demonstrable fact take a little longer to dismiss as fable and conspiracy,,,

I really like you mannnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I love how you put things......So eloquent.....but straight to the point.

[Dirty Penguin]

Originally Posted by FFH

According to the account given by Job this creature had scales, nostrils and a neck.

Never seen a whale with scales, nostrils or a neck, let alone a fire breathing one...(insert fire breathing smiley here).

A seal would fit this description more closely than a whale, and even then there are no scales and the size is all wrong of course...

The Hebrew translation is as close to anything we have of similar size, but is not anything like what Job described...

This is "ASSUMING" the "STORY" is true or just that...A STORY.....

[Dirty Penguin]

Originally Posted by FFH

A suggestion that something might be true, but has not been proven as such, because of various missing links in information gathered, which would complete the "equation".

Sounds like the definition of God(s) or most of the information contained in your bible.

[Dirty Penguin]

Originally Posted by FFH

Yes, the truth is boring to someone who wants or thinks there is more to our existence than just a more intelligent being than ourselves who created us...

Not rocket science, just a loving God who is the Father of our spirits...

Go knock yourself out trying to figure some other explanation....

Waste of time...

You seem to be cought up in some sort of hype.

Almost brainwashed in a way.

[Dirty Penguin]

Originally Posted by FFH

Psychics and Mystics are only channeling the thoughts of Satan and his angels who do his bidding for him....Mystics and psychics are only Satan's pawns on this earth and are feeding people full of lies on a nonexistent time, with nonexistent places, people and events.

It's nothing but made up people, places and events created by the father of lies the devil/Satan...

To believe anything more than this would be to believe in the father of lies himself...

Why is it that true prophets never mention this, but we are so willing to accept false prophets, having "itching ears" ourselves...

Meaning we want to know more than what's been plainly explained to us in scritpture, so the devil is willing to tell lies just because people won't accept the truth as plainly layed out and taught in scripture.

You make it seem like the bible doen't speak on this.....

Interpereting dreams

water to wine

casting downa staff to become a snake

on....and on.....and on........>>>>>>>>>

[Dirty Penguin]

Originally Posted by FFH

I've already explained my position on this thoroughly just a few pages back.

Scientists have their agendas, just as we all do. Many scientists readily accept that their findings are only theories and not fact, but the general public picks up on these findings and starts to pass them off as fact and there are also scientists who have theories who may decide to pass of their findings as fact to make themselves look better of for money's sake so they can sell more books, have a bigger following, aquire more frubals , etc...

See what I mean people have their reasons for lying to the public.... Money can be a big motivator, not to mention the desire to discredit Christian theories or facts so they can satisfy their own consciences...
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Just like that crackpot prophet's website you provided...

He'll even let you shop for stuff on his site......

I bet you he doesn't spread his word to a large group of people for free....

[Dirty Penguin]

Originally Posted by FFH

The earth was literally tilted on it's axis which brought the waters from the oceans and the earth up and over the earths surface, with the help of some rain too of course, but the world was literally moved or tilted, wheras before it was parallel or only slightly tilted in it's rotations on it's axis in relation to the sun.

That will sink in later, hopefully I described it so it is understood,.

Were there seasons prior to the flood or was the earth's axis parallel or almost parallel to the sun's axis, which would have made the seasons if there really were any more mild and much less harsh, which would have allowed vegetation to flourish which would have been able to supports such large creatures as described in Job 40 and 41, which were as large as any dinosaur we could imagine...

PROVE YOUR ASSERTION......!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can assert that the Earth and dinosaurs were here before the earth was knocked on it's axis by a huge metor. This massive meteor was responsible for hitting the earth and blocking the sun with a cloud of dust and the lack of light caused certain species to die. Additionally this meteor was responsible for putting the earth on a 22 degree axis. It wasn't until millions of years time had gone by and through the evolution of certain species that survived we find ourselves here today.

Now what makes your assertion anymore truth than that?.....NONE.....

[Dirty Penguin]

Originally Posted by xstian sista

I believe, only by studying the Word of God you would come to that knowledge.
Scientist will always be against it, thats what they get paid for!
With God all things is possible, man could never understand the mind of God, lets not try so hard, you may come up with some other mumbo jumbo.
Anyway History tells us, by giving us the geneology, From the creation of this world to Noah was 2,000years, From Noah to Jesus was another 2,000yrs, and from Jesus to us is another 2,000YEARS. Whatever others come up with does not make sense to me.

You know...it's dribble like this that get me fired up....here we go.....

You are assuming scientist get paid big money. that is just not true. some of them have to struggle and beg to have certain projects funded. A lot of them aren't driving mecedes, lexus, porche etc......

You might want to check some of these preachers and so called prophets who are living lage on the wllets of their congregations or followers. The ones with websites selling their knowledge for pennies on the dollar.

Prove to me that there are gods and then prove to me they have minds.... cause the only thing being proven by those statements is ignorance. The car you drive, the water you drink, the close you wear, the computer you type on, the internet that brought you here.....I coild go on but i think you get the jist....science is responsible.......

[Dirty Penguin]

Originally Posted by `PaWz

Are you serious?

Did you recently change your avatar?????

If so...I like it....

[Dirty Penguin]

Originally Posted by FFH

Gnostic, you brought up some good points....

First of all Genesis 1-13 is missing quite a few pages in the King James. Joseph Smith had to restore about 13 pages of it and is recorded here; Book of Moses

NO ONE IS GOING TO TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY NOW.....

You said in an earlier post that the bible needs no affirmation.....

Originally Posted by FFH

....the Bible needs no affirmations, from any man, concerning it's accuracy, as long as it's translated correctly, that is unless you doubt the historical accuracy of the Bible....

SO if it needed no affirmation and was accurate then why are you proclaiming that pages are missing???

If the book was so infallible and accurate then what would even be the purpose of the book of Moses?

Starting to sound a little weak to me.....

Just in case you believe I'm misquoting you here is the original...
Who Believe the Earth is 6000 Years Old???


Now do you see what I mean????