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Old 01-05-2007, 11:04 AM
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when man sinned the curse was dealt to all creation including man.
I must be missing something, because to me, it paints a demeaning and immature picture of God throwing the biggest tantrum ever to curse every future living creature for all time because of the bad judgment of two people. Is it all just allegorical? Do people really think God is like that, or did I miss yet another point?

I guess this is really just another rehash of the old argument around "original sin", but think of the lemurs, man! Who would curse a lemur??
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I must be missing something, because to me, it paints a demeaning and immature picture of God throwing the biggest tantrum ever to curse every future living creature for all time because of the bad judgment of two people. Is it all just allegorical? Do people really think God is like that, or did I miss yet another point?


I'll take allegory for $1000, please.

At times like this, I wish I had a CHUMASH, so I could see some of the commentary on those passages and see what Judaism has to say about the subject. It's their book, after all.

Oh, btw, the Eastern Church doesn't do original sin, just in case you weren't aware, it's not a universal Christian belief of anything.
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I suspect the story of the Fall is designed to answer questions such as why there is suffering in the world, how morality is important to humans, and why humans are separated from God. I see the story as something to be taken allegorically rather than literally.
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I suspect the story of the Fall is designed to answer questions such as why there is suffering in the world, how morality is important to humans, and why humans are separated from God. I see the story as something to be taken allegorically rather than literally.
I have a very good allegorical interpretation of the story of The Fall, if anyone is interested. No, original sin is not a valid doctrine.

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