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Old 08-19-2006, 09:43 PM
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As so many claim to be Christians or theists,has it basically come down to what people feel like classifying themselves as and not based on what Jesus said was the qualifier
There is several hundred groups of professing Christians in our world today.
Christian, means Christ follower,what is it that Jesus referred to when He said,
" You Must Be Born Again" this sounds conditional to me!!
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Old 08-19-2006, 09:51 PM
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and not based on what Jesus said was the qualifier
Out of interest, what is Jesus recorded as saying?
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Old 08-19-2006, 09:56 PM
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As so many claim to be Christians or theists,has it basically come down to what people feel like classifying themselves as and not based on what Jesus said was the qualifier
There is several hundred groups of professing Christians in our world today.
Christian, means Christ follower,what is it that Jesus referred to when He said,
" You Must Be Born Again" this sounds conditional to me!!
How do you determine exactly what that means?
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Old 08-19-2006, 09:59 PM
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" You Must Be Born Again" this sounds conditional to me!!
It sounds like a teaching of reincarnation to me.
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Old 08-19-2006, 10:09 PM
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As so many claim to be Christians or theists,has it basically come down to what people feel like classifying themselves as and not based on what Jesus said was the qualifier
There is several hundred groups of professing Christians in our world today.
30,000 + would be more accurate.

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Christian, means Christ follower,what is it that Jesus referred to when He said," You Must Be Born Again" this sounds conditional to me!!
I believe it refers to a change of heart. What do you think it means?
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Well, I only have one birth certificate, so I guess not.
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Old 08-20-2006, 07:46 AM
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As so many claim to be Christians or theists,has it basically come down to what people feel like classifying themselves as and not based on what Jesus said was the qualifier
There is several hundred groups of professing Christians in our world today.
Christian, means Christ follower,what is it that Jesus referred to when He said,
" You Must Be Born Again" this sounds conditional to me!!
I agree with Katzpur; I believe it means literally, starting life afresh (in a religious context).
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Old 08-20-2006, 11:57 AM
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I surrendered my life to Christ if that's what you mean. I was raised Baptist, so the phrase "Born Again" makes me think of baptism. Not that any means anything different than what you're saying , that's just the first thing that pops in my head.

If you mean born again kinda like in 2 Cor 5:17 (new creation in Christ...), then yeah I am Born Again.
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Anybody can claim to be anything. But Jesus said "If you love me keep my commandments." Frankly, if one doesn't, I won't make the judgment of wether one is saved or not. That's up to God.

Start letting people be responsible to God for themselves.

-And yes, I am Born Again
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Baptism is symbolic of what happens to you. We are to be baptized twice. Baptism is first by the Holy Spirit (Mark 1:8). And then by the Water (Acts 8:37-38), which is after one beleives. John hints at this in 1 JOhn 5:8. Read it, it's good.

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