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Old 10-11-2004, 09:24 AM
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[quote=carrdero]"Thou shalt have no other gods before me,"

If we are to believe that GOD is the first and the longest existing entity than the statement is TRUE-in that there is/was no Gods before him.

If we take it as a commandment than yes it is a bit self serving. For even GOD K(NOW)s that we are all gods the only difference BEing the time we have existed as entites (spiritual as well as physical) and our PURPOSE/agenda.

Carrdero: I do believe that in the context of the first commandment, "before me" does not mean "existed before me," but rather "be ranked higher than me."
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Looking foward to when the thread gets up to THOU SHALL NOT KILL
I am, as well. I started a thread about the Death Penalty a short time ago. But - I don't want to skip ahead - this thread has promise.

I agree with Carrdero's take on the first commandment - to me, it clearly means that you should not worship any other God as being superior to the Judeo Christian God. Oddly, the idea of it meaning "no God existed prior to me" had never occured to me before.

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Here ya go. - Sorry for the high pitched background... this was all I could find.
Carlin just took the stage 20 minutes ago about 4 miles from my house and I`m not there....<sigh>
Half the people I work with went to see him so I`ll be hearing about it tomorrow.

I`m not sure this thread is necessary anymore.
I think George pretty much covered it in a thorough analysis.

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Voice Of Reason writes: I agree with Carrdero's take on the first commandment - to me, it clearly means that you should not worship any other God as being superior to the Judeo Christian God. Oddly, the idea of it meaning "no God existed prior to me" had never occured to me before.
It still begs the question "Why would an omnipotent ALL-Mighty BEing desire/require worship from any physical (or spiritual) entity." Either way you cut it you are either disrespecting GOD or us by thinking that GOD needs/wants worship or humans need/want to give GOD worship.
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Linwood writes: Carlin just took the stage 20 minutes ago about 4 miles from my house and I`m not there....<sigh>
Half the people I work with went to see him so I`ll be hearing about it tomorrow.

I`m not sure this thread is necessary anymore.
I think George pretty much covered it in a thorough analysis.
Carlin is playing up by us (Upstate New York) at our Civic Center next week. Though as insightful and humorous as his take on the Commandments are I do not think Carlin has quite the same understanding that Voice Of Reason's topic is hoping to bring out of all of us.
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Carlin is playing up by us (Upstate New York) at our Civic Center next week. Though as insightful and humorous as his take on the Commandments are I do not think Carlin has quite the same understanding that Voice Of Reason's topic is hoping to bring out of all of us.
I agree (again) Carrdero. I am adding you to my buddy list (just think of the prestige that will bring). I just heard the Carlin bit two nights ago when Jensa posted the link. I love Carlin, but I'm hoping that we can get some of the stronger Christians on here to take up the cause on their side of the aisle.

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I just heard the Carlin bit two nights ago when Jensa posted the link. I love Carlin
Sorry to get WAY off topic, but Jensa posted another Carlin link? I demand more Carlin! Link me!
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Nascent Israel was monalatrous. Like its Syro-Palestinian neighbors, they viewed 'nations' as socio-political covenants, each associated with, dependent upon, and owing allegiance to a member of the 'Divine Council' of gods.
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