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Old 08-04-2006, 12:07 AM
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Just a question for yall who are saying that the Devil is deceptive, preys on the weak, etc: assuming for the moment that the Bible is extraordinarily accurate, where in scripture are you getting all this stuff from?
I never said that Lucifer preys on the weak, but the Bible does make mention of him being decieving.

Gen. 3:13 "Then the LORD God said to the woman, "What is this you have done?"
The woman said, "The serpent deceived me, and I ate."
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Old 08-04-2006, 07:18 PM
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Satan's objective is to get you into Hell. Period.
Obviously that's a matter of opinion. From a Christian perspective, yes. Otherwise, not necessarily.

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Thing is, when we see that Satan, although offering pleasure for a season, ALWAYS takes way more than we bargained for, always brings destruction into our lives, and that adversity follows the wicked, yet peace, happiness, joy, love, and true contentment lie with those who have placed their trust in God, why not follow Him?
I have peace, happiness, joy, love and true contentment. I don't have destruction in my life. Everything is fine over here.
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Old 08-05-2006, 03:06 AM
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yet peace, happiness, joy, love, and true contentment lie with those who have placed their trust in God, why not follow Him?
Denying my disgusting, horrible, wicked, and sinful nature had me pretty miserable as a Christian.
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I never said that Lucifer preys on the weak, but the Bible does make mention of him being decieving.

Gen. 3:13 "Then the LORD God said to the woman, "What is this you have done?"
The woman said, "The serpent deceived me, and I ate."
Where in the scripture does it say that the serpent is Lucifer?
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Old 08-05-2006, 02:43 PM
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Where in the scripture does it say that the serpent is Lucifer?
Revelation 12:9 The great dragon was hurled down - that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.

Honestly, I don't even know where in the Bible the name "Lucifer" is mentioned. But being widely accepted that he is the one that saw things differently from God, he was the one cast down from heaven and took his followers with him. With that put together with the above verse, it is obvious that he is the dragon, serpent, devil, and Satan.
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Revelation 12:9 The great dragon was hurled down - that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.

Honestly, I don't even know where in the Bible the name "Lucifer" is mentioned. But being widely accepted that he is the one that saw things differently from God, he was the one cast down from heaven and took his followers with him. With that put together with the above verse, it is obvious that he is the dragon, serpent, devil, and Satan.
Actually, the only time "Lucifer" is mentioned in the bible is a case of mistranslation.
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Actually, the only time "Lucifer" is mentioned in the bible is a case of mistranslation.
Then where does the name come from?
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