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View Poll Results: How warlike is Islam?
Very warlike. 4 21.05%
Somewhat warlike. 3 15.79%
Neutral. 3 15.79%
Somewhat peace loving. 1 5.26%
Very peace loving. 8 42.11%
I pretended to be a US Ranger while driving today. Does that count? 0 0%
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Old 07-25-2006, 03:25 PM
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Is that weight leading them to be more "warlike"?
Depends on which scholars you are talking about are you talking about the great scholars of Islam or the ones we have today. If what a scholar says contradicts the quran or muhammed (authenic hadiths)he is wrong.
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Old 07-25-2006, 03:26 PM
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Just how warlike is Islam, especially whn compared to other religions?
A point of clarification before I answer -- do you mean Islam as practiced today, or Islam as taught and practiced early on?
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A point of clarification before I answer -- do you mean Islam as practiced today, or Islam as taught and practiced early on?
I would be interested in any differences you see between the two. Does that help?
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A point of clarification before I answer -- do you mean Islam as practiced today, or Islam as taught and practiced early on?
Does history really matter? Are not the choices we make today what are important? Wouldn't the same apply to any religion?

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Depends on which scholars you are talking about are you talking about the great scholars of Islam or the ones we have today. If what a scholar says contradicts the quran or muhammed (authenic hadiths)he is wrong.
Thank you Mujahid. Unfortunately, when people are wrong, they don't know it. Contradiction of the Quran is holy dependant upon interpretation.
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Does history really matter? Are not the choices we make today what are important? Wouldn't the same apply to any religion?

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It would if "change" meant something totally different. For example, if they told you Christianity used to worship a cheese God make of goats milk, would history matter then?

It would to me.
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Any indirect communication is subject to misinterpretation. What makes your Quran and Sunnah any different?
What do you mean indirect. It is direct because it is the original and we have the interpretation. let me give you an example We have what we call the tafsir which is the explanation of the Quran according to what happened at the time. The companions know why the verse was revealed and they wrote it down. The Messenger pbu sat with some of the Companions [ali ibn abi talib, ibn abbas, ibn masud,obaid bin kab]and explained to them what every ayat meant and some of the one they did know. We have their documentation[very old]. Abu Hurairah sat with the Messenger he has narrated the most hadith. Then were two of other companions and his wife. Ours is direct because we still have the original. And we have the original interpretations of the one who gave it to us. What other religions have the original.
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Thank you Mujahid. Unfortunately, when people are wrong, they don't know it.
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Contradiction of the Quran is holy dependant upon interpretation.
Only if the interpretation is someone other than Allah and Muhammed and the companions who were there as witnesses.
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It would if "change" meant something totally different. For example, if they told you Christianity used to worship a cheese God make of goats milk, would history matter then?