Why God didn't make the body perfect? (creation, suicide, diseases)

[TashaN]

Originally Posted by pandamonk

That's what I meant when i said "Lead from space? Everything came from space!!", lol what was i talking about, lead? I meant Iron. The whole earth is made up of all these things sent down from space.

I was wondering what about the "Lead" thing that's why i couldn't comment in it

Anyway, the thing is like this, after the earth was made (almost) then the iron was sent down after that (alone). Can you please make a little search about it? because you can't just reject it like that before even have a look in the creation of earth in the first place.

Thanks in advance.

[pandamonk]

Wikipedia:

Iron is a chemic element with the symbol Fe (L.: Ferrum) and atomic number 26. Iron is a group 8 and period 4 metal. Iron is notable for being the final element produced by stellar nucleosynthesis, and thus the heaviest element which does not require a supernova or similarly cataclysmic event for its formation. It is therefore the most abundant heavy metal in the universe.

[gramps]

Why isn't all human bodies perfect?
I suppose that is a good question. I would rather ask the question about the man, whom the apostles came upon who had been blind since his birth. The apostles asked Christ: "Who did sin? this man or his parents that he was born blind?" By asking that question it should generate the understanding that the apostles, at least, believed in a pre-existence, or that man lived before. Or else how could a man sin before he was born?
I am LDS and some of our teachings seem to suggest that there was indeed a first earth. The verse in the book of Moses in the book called "The Pearl of Great Price" in the first chapter of Moses, God said, "The worlds I have created are without number to man, but they are numbered unto me as the hairs of your head are numbered unto me, for they are mine."
Let me just guide you to the poignant question that statement generates. If we were to ask God to measure all of space and give us an answer in miles or kilometers, could God answer our question?

[SoyLeche]

Originally Posted by gramps

Why isn't all human bodies perfect?
I suppose that is a good question. I would rather ask the question about the man, whom the apostles came upon who had been blind since his birth. The apostles asked Christ: "Who did sin? this man or his parents that he was born blind?" By asking that question it should generate the understanding that the apostles, at least, believed in a pre-existence, or that man lived before. Or else how could a man sin before he was born?
I am LDS and some of our teachings seem to suggest that there was indeed a first earth. The verse in the book of Moses in the book called "The Pearl of Great Price" in the first chapter of Moses, God said, "The worlds I have created are without number to man, but they are numbered unto me as the hairs of your head are numbered unto me, for they are mine."
Let me just guide you to the poignant question that statement generates. If we were to ask God to measure all of space and give us an answer in miles or kilometers, could God answer our question?

I'm sorry, but... huh?

I can't see how this relates to the topic of the thread.

[pandamonk]

Originally Posted by SoyLeche

I'm sorry, but... huh?

I can't see how this relates to the topic of the thread.

I was thinking the very same thing.

[pandamonk]

Originally Posted by gramps

Why isn't all human bodies perfect?
I suppose that is a good question. I would rather ask the question about the man, whom the apostles came upon who had been blind since his birth. The apostles asked Christ: "Who did sin? this man or his parents that he was born blind?" By asking that question it should generate the understanding that the apostles, at least, believed in a pre-existence, or that man lived before. Or else how could a man sin before he was born?
I am LDS and some of our teachings seem to suggest that there was indeed a first earth. The verse in the book of Moses in the book called "The Pearl of Great Price" in the first chapter of Moses, God said, "The worlds I have created are without number to man, but they are numbered unto me as the hairs of your head are numbered unto me, for they are mine."
Let me just guide you to the poignant question that statement generates. If we were to ask God to measure all of space and give us an answer in miles or kilometers, could God answer our question?

This has nothing to do ith the question. I see that you've only posted 20 times, so may not be in the swing of it yet, so check out some other posts to see what kind of repies people give, and then reply. We are not looking for biblical passages etc. We are looking for philosophical debates. And as for the life before...hmm the man may have been blind 'cause God knew he would do evils in his life, and by restricting him with disability, this would stop him. But then one may ask, why does he not do this to everyone who will sin, or who are born into a sinful family?

[gramps]

Why didn't God create a perfect human body?"
In my opinion, which is solely Mormon, God did create all humun being perfect with no disease, no infirmatives or anything else, "ON THE FIRST EARTH" God also created man to live forever. However, after about, let''s say 15000 years, all of human kind were suffering because of the guilt feelings they had over some hurt they may have caused in others. IN one of the Mormon books called "The Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith" It is written that in the beginning all men were co-equal with God. If you were to allow your minds to ponder that thought for a few moments you would have to conclude that the only time mere man could have been co-equal with the being who created him was at a time in our history when there were no men, animals, plants, insects, or Gods.
In one other Mormon Book, called "The Pearl of Great Price" which were actually an acccumulation of 16 books that were brought to the United States from Egypt. Anyone in the only Book that Mormons consider as being scripture in the book of Moses God is talking to Moses and tells him, "The worlds I have created are without number to man but they are numbered unto me." and so on--- God cannot measure space because it is endless, but that books yields some very valuable information in saying that God could numer the worlds. Because if God could number the worlds then that proves to us that there was indeed a first earth.
No one on that first earth committed any sins simply because there were no laws. Brigham Young said twice, that God is the first of the human family, so that mean that the Adam of that first world would have to be God.
God called a great council on that earth or heaven, and caused death of man to be a part of the great plan he incorporated after that first earth. The God of the first earth was the only God that was ever created from the dust or elements of the earth. All other people were created figuratively not actually from the dust of the earth. That means to us that every person is directly related to God or has the blood of God flowing in their veins. The plan that was incorporated at the conclusion of the first earth was the same plan on which we are under the auspice today. The plan was perfect so there would be no need to add anything or take anything away from it. So Christ, or A Christ is the God of every earth. Adam will partake of the forbidden fruit on every earth, because knowledge is the one thing most sought for on any earth.
The Ten Commandments were provided, not so much as to inhibit man from the joy this earth has to offer, but they were given to prevent man from the heartache, mental torment, grief, and remorse that comes with the breaking of the least of these commandments.
I had better stop there.

Love all
gramps

[roli]

Originally Posted by pandamonk

But why would we? Or even more importantly, how could we? Cancer is caused by the mutation of cells, so how can we cause that? Maybe our diet, or environment, but that is still not our own fault. We sometimes have no choice where we live or what we eat.

I don't think it was done on purpose.
I think, wethink we are so...o intelligent and creative by our own blinded ingeniuity and innovated practices coupled with the fact we are greedy for financial gain creates a perfect enviroment for health risk.
We are in the chemical age where pure food is obsolete, unless oraganically grown in controlled enviroments and we are subject to the effects of rapid oxidation of our cellular structure.

I agree it is sometimes out of our controll but regardless it still creates disease

[Æsahættr]

Originally Posted by gramps

In my opinion, which is solely Mormon, God did create all humun being perfect with no disease, no infirmatives or anything else

Wouldn't a perfect human being be one who was immune to deterioration of any sort? In other words, if it was possible for disease, death etc. to enter the world, was that not an inherent imperfection from the start?