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Old 07-23-2006, 11:58 PM
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You forgot to mention that there are a percentage of people who are not physically proportionate or attractive.

The body is a cell and there is no prison that is perfect. Besides how could you die with a perfect body? Now that I think about it, how could you live with a perfect body.
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Old 07-24-2006, 12:14 AM
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You forgot to mention that there are a percentage of people who are not physically proportionate or attractive.


Ah, but then one could argue that that defintion is "perfect" is a very fallible human variety. After all, the definition of proportionate and attrative varies, as anyone who watches the fashions in body shape in Hollywood movies and art works would know.

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The body is a cell and there is no prison that is perfect. Besides how could you die with a perfect body? Now that I think about it, how could you live with a perfect body
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Good question. Many years ago after this really good looking girl left the room a man commented "wouldn't you want to look like her?" and I immediately replied, "No."

Amazingly good looking women either deal with men who are so intimidated by their looks that they don't dare approach, or get approached by men who are only interested in them for their looks. Also, we never learn to depend on our looks to get us through life, only to find that about middle age we have to learn some other techniques.

This is not a problem us average looking women tend to have.
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Old 07-24-2006, 07:13 AM
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We may find a scientific way to control it(we already have, chemotherapy)and there are many natural things that some claim help, essiac tea, but none cure all cancers every time, and the ones which are used now (chemo) are horrible. Noone should ever have to go through that.
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Old 07-24-2006, 07:28 AM
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If you believe in logic so explain for me how any creature would come to existance without a creator?

Have you ever seen a creature fall down from the sky ready and perfect to live alone by itself???

Is this your logic?

Things came by itself? How? Think !
Have you never heard the theory of evolution? Why must the creature be ready and perfect and live alone? No it is not my logic. Yes, i believe things did come by themselves, but not in the way you have put it. The evolutionary theory states that we all came from single celled organisms. There are many theory of how the first was formed, and noone(i don't think)really know exactly how, yet. Cells are made up of chemicals(i think), which for the first cells must of collected or merged in some way. One theory is that this happened(and still does)at the bottom of oceans along the fault lines where there are volcanic vents which produce heats that may have helped merge these chemicals. After millions of years these cells mutated and begun to split. Actually this will end up novel size if i go through the whole process. Here is a link to a site, which explains the theory. This is what I and many many others believe, and i think it has be proved.
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Old 07-24-2006, 03:40 PM
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Arguably, God didn't make the body more perfect than He already did because a "perfect" body could theoretically live forever, thus royally screwing up both evolution and the prerogatives for future generations to have an equal chance to live and thrive.....

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Old 07-24-2006, 03:49 PM
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Arguably, God didn't make the body more perfect than He already did because a "perfect" body could theoretically live forever, thus royally screwing up both evolution and the prerogatives for future generations to have an equal chance to live and thrive.....

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How can anything be more perfect? Why is death considered an imperfection? Surely death is a perfection because it allows "both evolution and the prerogatives for future generations to have an equal chance to live and thrive". The fact that many suffer and die, or suffer of any sort is what i have a problem with.
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Old 07-24-2006, 04:02 PM
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How can anything be more perfect? Why is death considered an imperfection? Surely death is a perfection because it allows "both evolution and the prerogatives for future generations to have an equal chance to live and thrive".
On THIS we agree.
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The fact that many suffer and die, or suffer of any sort is what i have a problem with.
Look at it as a bio-feedback mechanism and it's not quite so brutal. If dying were pleasant then organisms would learn to die quickly. As it is, pain teaches us a LOT. Don't touch that stove, try not to hit your finger with that hammer. This list could go on.
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Old 07-24-2006, 04:15 PM
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On THIS we agree. Look at it as a bio-feedback mechanism and it's not quite so brutal. If dying were pleasant then organisms would learn to die quickly. As it is, pain teaches us a LOT. Don't touch that stove, try not to hit your finger with that hammer. This list could go on.
I'm talking about naturally occuring diseases etc, such as cancer, and naturally occuring phenomenon which causes pain and suffering such as tsunami, volcanic eruptions, famine, etc, etc. Obviously we need pain so that we can learn. I did not say that dying should be pleasant, i said that we shouldn't suffer. We would still fear death, and try to survive though, because we would be unsure what was after.
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I must confess that I didn't read the thread.

I think that God made our bodies the way that she liked.

Perhaps the current state of imperfection is due to the presence of sin in the world.
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I must confess that I didn't read the thread.

I think that God made our bodies the way that she liked.

Perhaps the current state of imperfection is due to the presence of sin in the world.
Then why does God allow the sin? For our free will? But is our free will worth the sin and imperfection? If so, the burden is on you to explain how/why.
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