Logic (myth, theist, God, Christ, religion)

[royol]

Could everyone please stop using the word 'Logic' or 'Logically' when talking about or referring to religion, it gives undeserved credence to religion, a little like saying, 'It's logical to assume Father Christmas feeds his reindeers on oats', you can see how silly that sounds, because what has logic to do with a mythical Father Christmas?
There is no 'Logic' where these subjects are concerned.

[ChrisP]

Can you stop demeaning Santa Clause. There's no reason to treat such a great and generous man with respect. It's safe to assume you'll be getting a lump of coal this year.

It's tired, and all theists on this forum have heard every "there is nothing greater than people" argument under the sun.

The point here is to understand the viewpoints of others not convince everyone else they're wrong by belittling them with derogatory rants. Show me why believing that "man is the greatest of all things" is beneficial, instead.

[royol]

Where you see a viewpoint, I see a suitable case for treatment.
When a person tells the police he has been told by God to kill all prostitutes,
the police do not consider that to be a viewpoint, they are considered to be dangerous,
but when someone tells you they are going to be with their God when they die, you
consider that to be a viewpoint, admittedly they are not going to kill anyone, but they are just as deluded.

[Fluffy]

Could everyone please stop using the word 'Logic' or 'Logically' when talking about or referring to religion, it gives undeserved credence to religion, a little like saying, 'It's logical to assume Father Christmas feeds his reindeers on oats', you can see how silly that sounds, because what has logic got to do with a mythical Father Christmas?
There is no 'Logic' where these subjects are concerned.

I think you are letting it get to you too much. Stop letting other people's opinions about religion affect you so much and move on. You will be happier for it in the long run.

[michel]

Originally Posted by royol

Could everyone please stop using the word 'Logic' or 'Logically' when talking about or referring to religion, it gives undeserved credence to religion, a little like saying, 'It's logical to assume Father Christmas feeds his reindeers on oats', you can see how silly that sounds, because what has logic got to do with a mythical Father Christmas?
There is no 'Logic' where these subjects are concerned.

Are there any other words that annoy you, or that you would like to see removed from usage ? BTW, this should help......................

[royol]

Yes.
thee, thou, thou art, yea, ye.
Any words that are used to give a subject the gravity it wouldn't normally have,
is in my opinion a form of cheating.

[michel]

Originally Posted by royol

Yes.
thee, thou, thou art, yea, ye.
Any words that are used to give a subject the gravity it wouldn't normally have,
is in my opinion a form of cheating.

Do you like any poetry ?.............I just ask, because poetry is a wonderful media in which to 'play' with words........That is what I find so fascinating about it.

But the point you make about other needless words is strange; because English is based on so many roots, we have an abundance of words that many other languages miss out on.

There again, European languages have other intricacies such as nouns having a Gender.

Very few who speak a language as a native do so correctly; it is only if you come to be in the position to teach a language that you suddenly become aware of tenses, which are far more 'definate and specific' than the ones we use.

[mr.guy]

There is no 'Logic' where these subjects are concerned.

Traditionally, a sign of honest instruction may direct one were to better apply new teachings; will you not facilitate us here? I often wonder why so many of the children on this forum have convinced themselves that they've "locked up" logic, if only to release it on the narrowest of arguments.

Could you perchance explain why logic cannot be applied to "religious topics"? I'm eager to learn how, where and when it ought best be used most correctly.

[Draka]

Originally Posted by royol

Could everyone please stop using the word 'Logic' or 'Logically' when talking about or referring to religion, it gives undeserved credence to religion, a little like saying, 'It's logical to assume Father Christmas feeds his reindeers on oats', you can see how silly that sounds, because what has logic got to do with a mythical Father Christmas?
There is no 'Logic' where these subjects are concerned.

Geez Louise man. What is your major malfunction? Did you get your panties twisted up in a bunch and they're chaffing a little too much? Why don't you for once get off your judgemental high horse and stop trying to regulate how people speak and think? You aren't the end all of how things are put.

[BruceDLimber]

Originally Posted by royol

Could everyone please stop using the word 'Logic' or 'Logically' when talking about or referring to religion, it gives undeserved credence to religion, a little like saying, 'It's logical to assume Father Christmas feeds his reindeers on oats', you can see how silly that sounds, because what has logic got to do with a mythical Father Christmas?
There is no 'Logic' where these subjects are concerned.

NONSENSE!

I'm very sorry if you can't stand the heat, but like it or not, science and logic are quite thoroughly intertwined with true religion whether you realize this or not!

The Baha'i scriptures (and other writings) make this quite clear:

“And among the teachings of Baha'u'llah is that religion
must be in conformity with science and reason, so that it
may influence the hearts of men. The foundation must be
solid and must not consist of imitations.”
(Selections from the Writings of `Abdu'l-Baha, page 299)

“The third principle or teaching of Baha'u'llah is the oneness of religion and science. Any religious belief which is not conformable with scientific proof and investigation is superstition, for true science is reason and reality, and religion is essentially reality and pure reason; therefore, the two must correspond. Religious teaching which is at variance with science and reason is human invention and imagination unworthy of acceptance, for the antithesis and opposite of knowledge is superstition born of the ignorance of man. If we say religion is opposed to science, we lack knowledge of either true science or true religion, for both are founded upon the
premises and conclusions of reason, and both must bear its test.”
(The Promulgation of Universal Peace, page 107)

Best,

Bruce