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[shytot]

I worked in Saudi Arabia for two years, some parts of SA are still living in
about the time the Qur’an was written,
it prompts me to ask a few questions, 'If the whole world was converted to Islam,
would humanity be forced back in time? would millions of people starve to death?
would the 'Tali ban' take over? would women be locked away and be kept only
for breeding, uneducated?
would none of these thing happen?
or has no one ever thought about what would happen?

[spacemonkey]

We wouldn't so much be "forced back in time", as we would retrogress. Just like in Europe when the Roman Catholic Church was in charge (an era known as the "Dark Ages"), all advances in the arts and sciences would be halted (and much forgotten or lost) while military advancements would continue to flourish (in order to keep people in line).

[TashaN]

Originally Posted by shytot

I worked in Saudi Arabia for two years, some parts of SA are still living inabout the time the Qur’an was written,

Can i ask you somthing?

In which city you were living in Saudi Arabia and did they gave you a house in the desert to live at or not?

it prompts me to ask a few questions, 'If the whole world was converted to Islam,would humanity be forced back in time? would millions of people starve to death?

You are talking about Saudi Arabia isn't it? So, did you see all people in saudi arabia strave to death and they forced you to go back in time? Do you think they hired you there to develop thier country or just for fun?

would the 'Tali ban' take over?

Remember, don't mix it up, you are talking about Saudi Arabia so don't jump around to show the negative part of Muslims.

would women be locked away and be kept onlyfor breeding, uneducated?

Can you prove to me that women in saudi arabia are ONLY for breeding and they are uneducated?

would none of these thing happen?or has no one ever thought about what would happen?

Before you think about this please read the history and the civilization of Muslims which enlightened europe while it was in it's dark age. take Spain for example.

Peace ..

[Mike182]

Originally Posted by shytot

I worked in Saudi Arabia for two years, some parts of SA are still living in
about the time the Qur’an was written,
it prompts me to ask a few questions, 'If the whole world was converted to Islam,
would humanity be forced back in time? would millions of people starve to death?
would the 'Tali ban' take over? would women be locked away and be kept only
for breeding, uneducated?
would none of these thing happen?
or has no one ever thought about what would happen?

the way your post is phrased, i am being lead to assume that you believe these things will happen if the majority of the world converted to islam........ am i right in this assumption?

[gnomon]

I doubt it. The OP that is.

Muslim scholars are credited with keeping "alive" the classical texts from the ancient period which many credit for playing a major role in the enlightenment of Western Europe. The Truth is right about this.

There are a vast number of muslim societies in the world today. As to which one portrays the "truth" of Islam I don't know and will not even assume which one does.

Personally I think if all of humanity was converted to one particular worldview that factions would still arise and the one worldview would lose its monopoly.

[sky87]

i'm sorry to say this, but this one of the most stupidest topics ive come across! shame that you lived in a country for so long, however failed to really learn much about the culture. ever heard of the ottomans? didn't think so. once upon a time in the near 1600s the arabs had the most powerful empire in the world! we were evolving much faster than the western empire, we had the latest weapons, the best troops, the best battle tactics, we weren't stupid! sure some bad leaders came in, they influenced religion with culture, made it more male-dominated, however that is not how islam works. if you ever read up on it (which im sure that you haven't) you will see that islam says that women and men are equal. i don't have much time to post a lot, however its sheer stupidity to think that the taliban would take over, they've made up their own perception of islam and jihad! thats NOT what we believe in, islam puts a great emphasis on peace, "jihad" perhaps the most misunderstood term in islam means to "stand up for one's religion", this is very often twisted around, and some believe it to mean war against the non-muslims, which is NOT the real meaning. if you ever look into the qur'anic verses it says that: killing one person is just as bad as killing all of mankind! we believe in peace not war.. all i can say is go watch "the message", that should explain a lot

[Judgement Day]

Originally Posted by shytot

I worked in Saudi Arabia for two years, some parts of SA are still living in
about the time the Qur’an was written,
it prompts me to ask a few questions, 'If the whole world was converted to Islam,
would humanity be forced back in time? would millions of people starve to death?
would the 'Tali ban' take over? would women be locked away and be kept only
for breeding, uneducated?
would none of these thing happen?
or has no one ever thought about what would happen?

First off, dont confuse between Islam and culture. Second off, have you ever heard of:

Al-Khawarizmi? The terms Algebra and Algorithm are familiar to all of us but how many have heard of their founder Mohammed Al-Khawarizmi.

Ibn Al-Haitham? He was arguably the greatest Muslim physicist and one of the greatest students of optics of all time. He was also an astronomer, a mathematician, a physician, and he wrote commentaries on Aristotle and Galen. He wrote about 70 manuscripts and he had propounded the famous Snell's law about 600 years before Snell.

Al-Ghazali? Ibn Sina? Known in Europe as Algazel, is one of the most illustrious Muslim scholars, who wrote many works, and became renowned for his learning.

Al-Kindi? Al-Kindi General Hospital, one of the biggest medical centres in present day Baghdad was named after his tremendous contributions in medical and pharmaceutical. Al-Kindi was best known as a philosopher, but he was also a physician, pharmacist, ophthalmologist, physicist, mathematician, geographer, astronomer, and chemist.

Ibn Al Jazzar?Ibn al-Jazziir was a prolific author in the field of medicine; his writings earned him great fame and made him very influential in medieval western Europe. His Kitab al-adwiya al-mufrada (Treatise on Simple Drugs)was translated into Greek, Latin and Hebrew and was frequently copied. But its Latin translation by Constantine the African, under the title Liber de gradibus, was of special importance, since it was in this version that the text became one of the most popular pharmacopeia in the Latin West.

Ibn Al-Naphis?Ibn Al-Naphis (Ala al-Din Abu al-A’la Ali ibn Abi Hazm al-Quraishi) of Damascus, an Arab physician of the thirteenth century (1210-1288 CE), explained the basic principles of the modern theory of the lesser or PULMONARY circulation nearly three hundred and fifty years before Sir William Harvey of Kent, England, who is wrongly credited with this discovery.

And many more!

Too bad if you havent. A little bit of research might prevent you from making such a nonsense post.

[MdmSzdWhtGuy]

A Taliban style of governmental/religious organization is a scary proposition for me as well. I am sure there are those who want to see this, but they will see it over the dead bodies of me and many of my countrymen.

Frankly I wouldn't get too worried about this happening any time soon. There are literally billions of Muslims in the world, but the percentage who want to see the world return to the "ideal" time and place of 6th Century Arabian Peninsula seems to be pretty slim.

I don't dismiss your concerns out of hand, but I don't think the Western world is going to be so quick to give up individual liberties.

B.

[shytot]

I could tell you things about Saudi Arabia you would not believe,
but a few you might, I worked for the SA air force.
during Ramadan, the Saudi's turn night into day to get around the law,
they sleep all day, and are awake all night, the shops open all night,
they ban drinking anything in the street during the day, no smoking,
or eating, instead of suffering and trying to understand how a beggar
feels, they ban everything if it helps them get through Ramadan.
I was once asked by a Saudi officer why I did not like living in SA,
I said the laws were too strict, he said, we were allowed to do anything
we wanted as long as it wasn't against the Koran, which covered
everything, and he believed that.
If an Arab drove into the back of your car, you were at fault,
if you had not been in SA, he would not have hit you, crazy but true.
The religious police round people up and make them go to the Mosque,
they have guns in shoulder holsters and bamboo canes, non believers
you are not allowed to look in shops during prayer times,
you will obey the rules or you will be made to leave the country,
if you come into the country with your religious book under your arm,
it will be confiscated. (what would happen if the Koran was taken away
in the rest of the world?)
I could go on for hours.

[TashaN]

Originally Posted by shytot

I could tell you things about Saudi Arabia you would not believe,
but a few you might, I worked for the SA air force.
during Ramadan, the Saudi's turn night into day to get around the law,
they sleep all day, and are awake all night, the shops open all night,
they ban drinking anything in the street during the day, no smoking,
or eating, instead of suffering and trying to understand how a beggar
feels, they ban everything if it helps them get through Ramadan.
I was once asked by a Saudi officer why I did not like living in SA,
I said the laws were too strict, he said, we were allowed to do anything
we wanted as long as it wasn't against the Koran, which covered
everything, and he believed that.
If an Arab drove into the back of your car, you were at fault,
if you had not been in SA, he would not have hit you, crazy but true.
The religious police round people up and make them go to the Mosque,
they have guns in shoulder holsters and bamboo canes, non believers
you are not allowed to look in shops during prayer times,
you will obey the rules or you will be made to leave the country,
if you come into the country with your religious book under your arm,
it will be confiscated. (what would happen if the Koran was taken away
in the rest of the world?)
I could go on for hours.

I agree with you, there are alot of descrimnation in saudi arabia and they don't have real human rights laws but they made those laws for themselves, they mixed religion with culture to fit their own people needs but that would be very bad for an outsider, i agree with you. Moreover, now they are changing many things in their law to be more flexible with people from other religions. I read that in their newspaper everyday.