Stem-Cell Reasearch (moral, reject, abortion, moral, legislation)

[Ceridwen018]

Good or bad? Helpful or sinful? What's you take?

[Bright-ness' Shadow]

Originally Posted by Ceridwen018

Good or bad? Helpful or sinful? What's you take?

Promising, very promising!!

I certainly do not consider it "sinful" or even immoral or unethical from a secular view. The embryo is life that will provide a means for advancement of a more satisfactory life for many. It would only be termed "sinful" by those who think a human being is created at conception.

-pah-

[Quoth The Raven]

The thing I find most irritating about this debate is that when it comes to stem cell research there's a huge ethical broohaha, heated debate and the need for government legislation. However...given that it's perfectly legal for a woman to go and have an abortion, which most certainly results in the death of the embryo - or indeed whatever stage of development the baby has reached - I find the whole thing quite hypocritical.
If it's unethical to experiment on an embryo of more than a specific number of cells, then one would have to assume that it would follow that it's unethical to abort an embryo of more than the same specific number of cells.
I just find the inconsistencies really annoying.

[Mister Emu]

Stem-Cell research is taking an embryo, and using the stem cells(which can turn into any cell in the body right?) to affect another Human being correct?

If that is what it is, then it is both immoral and sinful.

How is it anyone's right to decide the fate of another human life, even at its most simple.

[painted wolf]

Stem cells can also be gotten from discarded Placentas and frankly from the discarded rejects of IVF treatment. In IVF they fertalize as manny as 20 or more eggs in hopes of getting 6 that are healthy enough to be implanted... the rest are thrown away or frozen so they can be used or thrown away later.
What is more wrong... useing a fertalized egg (not an embryo mind you) to help cure diseases such as Altzimers(sp), Diabetes, Parkinsons ect. set. or simply throwing them away as so much garbage?
That is how the law treats these fertilized eggs... too holy to touch so into the dumpter with them... how is that honoring them?
If you ask me it is far more immoral and sinful.

Mister Emu, we as a nation deside peoples fate all the time... the state sanctions murder in the form of the death penalty, when you choose to take your extra money and buy some gew-gaw rather than help the needy of your community you help in desiding thier fate... when you vote for a political candidate you deside on the fate of the whole country. It is what happins in a society... everyone desides everyones fate.

wa:do

[Mister Emu]

In IVF they fertalize as manny as 20 or more eggs in hopes of getting 6 that are healthy enough to be implanted... the rest are thrown away or frozen so they can be used or thrown away later

Obviously I do not agree that somebody should start 20 human lives(fertilization is the start of life) and throw away 19 of them in the first place.

the state sanctions murder in the form of the death penalty,

I am not an advocate of the death penalty.

when you choose to take your extra money and buy some gew-gaw rather than help the needy of your community you help in desiding thier fate

I don't have the money to buy a "gew-gaw" and you don't know me very well because I would help the needy before buyign myself one.

when you vote for a political candidate you deside on the fate of the whole country. It is what happins in a society

I am 17, I can't vote.

[painted wolf]

the last part of my message was by way of example not a personal attack

someday I hope you will vote and help decide the fate your nation.

and anyway, what about the stem cells that could be gained from the placenta of already born children... this vital resource is thrown away into the incenerators because by law it can not be used for the collection of the stem cells it contains.

wa:do

[Quoth The Raven]

Do you guys not have umbilical cord blood banks or anything like that? They've been going for a couple of years here in Australia. Generally they use the cord blood in cancer treatment I think...it had just started up when I had my last daughter, and was really hard to organise collection, but I think it's come along since then.
Use everything you can, say I.