Religious Education Forum  

Welcome to Religious Forums
Welcome Guest to ReligiousForums.com . You are currently not registered. When you become registered you will be able to interact with our large base of already registered users discussing topics. Some annoying Ads will also disappear when you register. Registering doesn't cost a thing and only takes a few seconds. We provide areas to chat and debate all World Religions. Please go to our register page!

Home Who's Online Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Go Back   Religious Education Forum / Religious Topics / Religious Debates
Sitemap Popular RF Forums REGISTER Search Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-09-2004, 05:59 AM
retrorich's Avatar
retrorich Offline
Religion: None/Atheist
Title:SUPER NOT-A-MOD
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Ohio, USA
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,316
Frubals: 81864
retrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant future
retrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant future
Default Should God allow babies to be born with serious deformities or diseases?

Should an all-powerful, just and loving God allow babies to be born with serious deformities or diseases? Doesn't each child deserve a healthy start in life? This is not a question of free will; babies do not choose to be born with deformities or diseases.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-09-2004, 08:16 AM
Scott1's Avatar
Scott1 Offline
Religion: Roman Catholic
Title:Off playing Travian.com
Journal Award:  - Issue reason:  Article Award:  - Issue reason:  
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: MA, USA
Gender: Male
Posts: 8,012
Frubals: 590853
Scott1 thinks frubals grow on trees
Scott1 thinks frubals grow on treesScott1 thinks frubals grow on treesScott1 thinks frubals grow on treesScott1 thinks frubals grow on treesScott1 thinks frubals grow on treesScott1 thinks frubals grow on treesScott1 thinks frubals grow on treesScott1 thinks frubals grow on treesScott1 thinks frubals grow on treesScott1 thinks frubals grow on treesScott1 thinks frubals grow on trees
Scott1 thinks frubals grow on treesScott1 thinks frubals grow on treesScott1 thinks frubals grow on treesScott1 thinks frubals grow on treesScott1 thinks frubals grow on treesScott1 thinks frubals grow on treesScott1 thinks frubals grow on treesScott1 thinks frubals grow on treesScott1 thinks frubals grow on treesScott1 thinks frubals grow on treesScott1 thinks frubals grow on treesScott1 thinks frubals grow on treesScott1 thinks frubals grow on treesScott1 thinks frubals grow on treesScott1 thinks frubals grow on treesScott1 thinks frubals grow on treesScott1 thinks frubals grow on treesScott1 thinks frubals grow on treesScott1 thinks frubals grow on treesScott1 thinks frubals grow on treesScott1 thinks frubals grow on treesScott1 thinks frubals grow on treesScott1 thinks frubals grow on treesScott1 thinks frubals grow on trees
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by retrorich
Should an all-powerful, just and loving God allow babies to be born with serious deformities or diseases? Doesn't each child deserve a healthy start in life? This is not a question of free will; babies do not choose to be born with deformities or diseases.
I will let my friends here deal with your questions..... I just want to pop on and say hello and welcome you to the forums.

I will pray that whatever is hurting inside you can be healed by the relationships you form here....

Peace,
Scott
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-09-2004, 08:22 AM
Green Gaia's Avatar
Green Gaia Offline
Religion: Unitarian Universalist
Title:Lesbian SuperHero
Ambassador Award: Award designated for members who show great knowledge of their religion. - Issue reason: This ambassador award has been given to you by the award committee and is well deserved. Above and Beyond Award:  - Issue reason: This award has been given to you by your peers and is well deserved. Courtesy Award:  - Issue reason: This award has been given to you by your peers and is well deserved. Member of the Month Award:  - Issue reason:  Journal Award:  - Issue reason:  Article Award:  - Issue reason:  Prolific Poster Award:  - Issue reason:  
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Queerville
Gender: Female
Posts: 18,275
Frubals: 1121407
Green Gaia is a Frubal WhoreGreen Gaia is a Frubal WhoreGreen Gaia is a Frubal Whore
Green Gaia is a Frubal WhoreGreen Gaia is a Frubal WhoreGreen Gaia is a Frubal WhoreGreen Gaia is a Frubal Whore
Green Gaia is a Frubal WhoreGreen Gaia is a Frubal WhoreGreen Gaia is a Frubal WhoreGreen Gaia is a Frubal WhoreGreen Gaia is a Frubal WhoreGreen Gaia is a Frubal WhoreGreen Gaia is a Frubal WhoreGreen Gaia is a Frubal WhoreGreen Gaia is a Frubal WhoreGreen Gaia is a Frubal WhoreGreen Gaia is a Frubal WhoreGreen Gaia is a Frubal Whore
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by retrorich
Should an all-powerful, just and loving God allow babies to be born with serious deformities or diseases? Doesn't each child deserve a healthy start in life? This is not a question of free will; babies do not choose to be born with deformities or diseases.
Retrorich, you claim to be Atheist. So why are you asking questions about what "God" allows and doesn't allow, when you don't believe a god even exists?
__________________
Join the Impact



Matthew 7:12, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-09-2004, 08:42 AM
retrorich's Avatar
retrorich Offline
Religion: None/Atheist
Title:SUPER NOT-A-MOD
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Ohio, USA
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,316
Frubals: 81864
retrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant future
retrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant future
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SOGFPP
I will let my friends here deal with your questions..... I just want to pop on and say hello and welcome you to the forums.

I will pray that whatever is hurting inside you can be healed by the relationships you form here....

Peace,
Scott
Scott:

Thanks for your kind reply. I really do not feel that I have anything "hurting inside," but I much appreciate your good wishes. Best of luck to you, also!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-09-2004, 08:45 AM
retrorich's Avatar
retrorich Offline
Religion: None/Atheist
Title:SUPER NOT-A-MOD
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Ohio, USA
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,316
Frubals: 81864
retrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant future
retrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant futureretrorich has a brilliant future
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maize
Retrorich, you claim to be Atheist. So why are you asking questions about what "God" allows and doesn't allow, when you don't believe a god even exists?
Maize:

I like to "test" my atheism by seeing if religious people can provide information that might allow me to accept the existence of God.

For more information on my beliefs and nonbeliefs, please see:

Questions for Atheists
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-09-2004, 01:14 PM
Lightkeeper Offline
Title:Uber Member
Journal Award:  - Issue reason:  Article Award:  - Issue reason:  
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Gender: Undisclosed
Posts: 4,638
Frubals: 14203
Lightkeeper is a name known to allLightkeeper is a name known to allLightkeeper is a name known to allLightkeeper is a name known to allLightkeeper is a name known to allLightkeeper is a name known to allLightkeeper is a name known to allLightkeeper is a name known to allLightkeeper is a name known to allLightkeeper is a name known to allLightkeeper is a name known to allLightkeeper is a name known to allLightkeeper is a name known to allLightkeeper is a name known to allLightkeeper is a name known to allLightkeeper is a name known to allLightkeeper is a name known to allLightkeeper is a name known to allLightkeeper is a name known to allLightkeeper is a name known to allLightkeeper is a name known to allLightkeeper is a name known to allLightkeeper is a name known to allLightkeeper is a name known to allLightkeeper is a name known to allLightkeeper is a name known to allLightkeeper is a name known to allLightkeeper is a name known to all
Default

I wonder if your question is really "Should we allow babies with deformities and diseases be born?"
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-09-2004, 02:10 PM
Mr Spinkles's Avatar
Mr Spinkles Offline
Religion: None
Title:Staff on Sabbatical
Humor Award:  - Issue reason:  Scholarship Award:  - Issue reason:  
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Houston
Gender: Undisclosed
Posts: 5,989
Frubals: 1488765
Mr Spinkles is a Frubal WhoreMr Spinkles is a Frubal WhoreMr Spinkles is a Frubal WhoreMr Spinkles is a Frubal Whore
Mr Spinkles is a Frubal WhoreMr Spinkles is a Frubal WhoreMr Spinkles is a Frubal WhoreMr Spinkles is a Frubal WhoreMr Spinkles is a Frubal Whore
Mr Spinkles is a Frubal WhoreMr Spinkles is a Frubal WhoreMr Spinkles is a Frubal WhoreMr Spinkles is a Frubal WhoreMr Spinkles is a Frubal WhoreMr Spinkles is a Frubal WhoreMr Spinkles is a Frubal WhoreMr Spinkles is a Frubal WhoreMr Spinkles is a Frubal WhoreMr Spinkles is a Frubal WhoreMr Spinkles is a Frubal WhoreMr Spinkles is a Frubal WhoreMr Spinkles is a Frubal WhoreMr Spinkles is a Frubal WhoreMr Spinkles is a Frubal WhoreMr Spinkles is a Frubal WhoreMr Spinkles is a Frubal Whore
Default

If we had the power to stop it, I would say yes, we should.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-09-2004, 06:50 PM
Ronald Offline
Religion: The Way
Title:Senior Member
Article Award:  - Issue reason:  
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Central Te
Posts: 1,293
Frubals: 7597
Ronald is a glorious beacon of lightRonald is a glorious beacon of lightRonald is a glorious beacon of lightRonald is a glorious beacon of lightRonald is a glorious beacon of lightRonald is a glorious beacon of lightRonald is a glorious beacon of lightRonald is a glorious beacon of lightRonald is a glorious beacon of lightRonald is a glorious beacon of lightRonald is a glorious beacon of lightRonald is a glorious beacon of lightRonald is a glorious beacon of lightRonald is a glorious beacon of lightRonald is a glorious beacon of lightRonald is a glorious beacon of lightRonald is a glorious beacon of lightRonald is a glorious beacon of lightRonald is a glorious beacon of lightRonald is a glorious beacon of lightRonald is a glorious beacon of lightRonald is a glorious beacon of light
Default

Blame mankind and his evil inclination/hasatan.
God looked upon his creation, and declared it very good!
Man chose knowledge, man should use it to cure, fix and do good.
God has promised to restore his good works, in the fullness of time. There will be a Ruler with an Iron Rod, those, in his restored good works will have to be obedient,or else, He will not carry that rod in vain.
No babies, sick or deformed, just perfection. In Gods Good Works the Olam Habah/World to Come.
__________________
Jn.5:24 (RSV) Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears my word and believes him who sent me, has eternal life; he does not come into judgement, but has passed from death to life.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-10-2004, 12:07 AM
Hope's Avatar
Hope Offline
Religion: Jesus, not religion
Title:Princesinha
Journal Award:  - Issue reason:  
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: in my imagination
Gender: Female
Posts: 2,296
Frubals: 614710
Hope thinks frubals grow on trees
Hope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on trees
Hope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on trees
Default

As awful as being born with deformities or diseases is, who are we to say who should or shouldn't be born? Shouldn't everyone be given a chance at life? We are assuming that just because someone has a deformity or disease then that means they must wish that rather they were dead or never existed. Some of the bravest and most inspiring people there are are those who have had to overcome these kinds of obstacles in their lives.

I would never place myself in this same group of brave people--but I do want to use myself as kind of an example. I was not born with a disease, but I contracted one at a very early age, and have gone through much pain in my life because of it. If my parents had known in advance that I would get this disease, would I wish that they had aborted me? Absolutely not! I am still glad to be alive, regardless of the physical pain I have had to put up with, and will continue to put up with for the rest of my life. Life is what you make of it. It is sad that people are born with deformities and such, but I think they should have a right to live just like everyone else. If we all knew every pain and heartache that awaited every person before they were born, and decided on this basis that perhaps they shouldnt be born at all, then the whole of the human race would likely die off.
__________________
The World is a book, and those who do not travel read only a page.
~Saint Augustine~
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-10-2004, 12:14 AM
Hope's Avatar
Hope Offline
Religion: Jesus, not religion
Title:Princesinha
Journal Award:  - Issue reason:  
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: in my imagination
Gender: Female
Posts: 2,296
Frubals: 614710
Hope thinks frubals grow on trees
Hope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on trees
Hope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on treesHope thinks frubals grow on trees