Christian Wicca (Jesus, ritual, Earth, beliefs, spiritual)

[Darkdale]

Originally Posted by jgallandt

Darkdale. I don't believe that anyone has stated that your Gods are the same as the God I or Rebecca worship.

It was stated several times in this thread that all gods are one god. That simply isn't true.

Originally Posted by jgallandt

I don't get offended by other's religions. You have a right to your opinion, just as a Wicca Christian has a right to their view. There are many aspects of Christianity, as well as Wicca. Some say Jesus was a seperate Deity then God, but others claim them to be one and the same. continued.

Again, there is no such thing as Christian Wicca. It's an impossibility. Christianity and Wicca are two different religions with very different beliefs. It's disrespectful. Christian witchcraft is possible, though, the bible is very specific about the importance of killing witches, so the idea that Christians could be witches is a little weird.

The important thing is to respect Wiccans as having their own unique religion. It is not some random thing that can be attached to whatever you want. It's a unique religion that warrents its' own respect.

[jeffrey]

I respectfully disagree. There can be such a thing as CW. If that is what one chooses to believe and to be called. When one says that they believe that there is only one God, that they are all the same, by you saying that offends you, is disrespectful to their beliefs. No one is asking you to change your beliefs, or claiming you are wrong. Believe what you wish. But afford others the same.

[jeffrey]

http://www.wicca.com/celtic/forums/v...67&forum_id=19

This will explain alot.

Thank you Evenstar for this link.

[Darkdale]

Originally Posted by jgallandt

I respectfully disagree. There can be such a thing as CW. If that is what one chooses to believe and to be called. When one says that they believe that there is only one God, that they are all the same, by you saying that offends you, is disrespectful to their beliefs. No one is asking you to change your beliefs, or claiming you are wrong. Believe what you wish. But afford others the same.

You are looking at this backwards, but think whatever you like. I am within my intellectual rights to be offended when others are disrespectful to religions I hold in high regard. I do not believe there is anything called Christian Wicca, just as I don't believe that 2+2=5. I'm not looking at it as an opinion, but as a fact. You may disagree with that, but that's how I see it.

[jeffrey]

The great thing about this is I feel no need to convince you. I'm still trying to understand it myself. But I DO know who my wife feels, and I trust her instincts and intuitions. And since there are a number of people on this forum that say 'YES! they can be combined, I tend to be thankful for my open mind and believe that is can and is done.

[Solon]

Originally Posted by Pardus

Christian Wicca

Not to bash anyones belief, but i must honesty say i find this concept offensive.

Maybe it has something to do with dorment hostility towards christianity, i'm not completely sure, but i figure it is worth a discussion as i know there are others who feel the same, tho not nessicarily on here.

What are your thoughts on the subject?

P.S Hopefully this topic doesn't get too messy/nasty, because that is not my goal.

I have some interest in Wicca, although I would never descibe myself as one. But as a Pagan, you naturally take some interest in Wicca. But speaking as a Pagan. Paganism and Christianity are utterly incompatable, and that's all there is to say.

Solon

[Pardus]

Originally Posted by Fluffy

The Bible condemns witches. The Bible does not condemn Wiccans. A Wiccan doesn't have to be a witch. Explain why it is easier to be a Christian and a witch rather than Christian and Wiccan (although I think both are perfectly possible)?

This is the flaw in your entire viewpoint.

Only the king james version of the bible concemns witches, that version has been thought to be a corrupted version.

All Wiccans are witches, but not all witches are Wiccans, it's like saying that all catholics are christian but not all christians are catholic.

Wicca is a particular religion, a witch i someone who uses witchcraft, if someone doesn't want to call themselves a witch then they should rethink the entire thing.

Originally Posted by Mike182

huh? what do you mean?


wicca is another word for witch (witchcraft) - the word witch comes from the anglo-saxon term "wicce" which indicated magical practise. are you trying to say my beliefs do not fall under this? because im damn sure they do

Yes that is the source of the word, but not the meaning when used to describe relgious affliation, Wicca the religion comes mostly from Gerald Gardner and his friends when they first formed it.

Christianity has good and evil, Wicca has light and dark, they appear similiar but in fact are very different concepts and mature Wiccans will use both sources but realises the dangers each contain.

Well you can take or leave what i tell you here, but atleast hopefuly you'll understand what i am saying.

Another question for you tho, how do you view someone praying that another person will find their way back to christianity?

[gnomon]

Here's a grain of salt.

I thought that the central tenet behind christianity was that Jesus Christ is the sole conduit of divine power. If this is true then it leads to the argument that the belief in the healing power of crystals, divination through tarot cards or any other supernatural act outside of faith in Jesus Christ is opposed to the central teachings of christianity. To hold faith in, crystals and Jesus, would be contradictory from the view of christianity. Note: I'm thinking of the established church and the protestant offshoots when I mention christianity.

I don't bring this up because I'm actually concerned about the integrity of one faith over another. I bring this up because it sounds like christianity is being portrayed very broadly. So broad that it actually degrades the meaning of the word. Which I guess would actually be another topic altogether and not necessarily a religious debate at all.

What exactly, or which, christianity is being discussed here?

[jeffrey]

I view it differently. All things are from God. God and Jesus are the same. There are people in the Bible that used crystals for protection. Gems around their heart on armour. Joseph was a fortune teller. He could read dreams. The list goes on...

[mr.guy]

Originally Posted by Darkdale

\I'm not looking at it as an opinion, but as a fact.

If it's a fact, then please, don't leave us in suspense. I'd love to see these "facts".