Take a Quiz (Jesus, priest, Moses, soul, choice)

[flysky]

- Muslims worship Muhammed (PBUH).
- Muslims pray to a different god than Christians and Jews do.
- Muslims believe in Jesus as a Prophet and don't believe in the Trinity.
- Muslims believe in Prophet Moses (PBUH).
- The Holy Quran has one chapter named after Mary (mother of Jesus (PBUH)).
- Muslims believe in the miraculous birth of Prophet Jesus (PBUH).
- The Holy Quran encourages violence.
- The largest Muslim population is in Indonesia and not the Middle East.
- Only 12% of the Muslim population is Arab.
- Western women are converting to Islam in large numbers.
- Islam gives many rights to women .
- Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world.
- Suicide Bombings occur not because of Islam but because of political reasons.
- Jihad means Holy War.
- To get the answers to these questions I will have to visit http://www.askmuslims.com/qa.html

[Nehustan]

- Muslims worship Muhammed (PBUH). Absolutley incorrect, to worship anything 'finite' or physically manifest within creation seen or unseen is the greatest sin (shirk).

- Muslims pray to a different god than Christians and Jews do. Well this very much depends who the Christians and 'Jews' are praying to and what concept they hold in their mind. Eloah and Allah are synonymous, however it is often moot that Jahweh could be a different entity. However Muhammad, Jeheshuah, and Moses almost certainly prayed to the same God

- Muslims believe in Jesus as a Prophet and don't believe in the Trinity. Absolutley true.

- Muslims believe in Prophet Moses (PBUH). As a prophet, yes again absolutley true.

- The Holy Quran has one chapter named after Mary (mother of Jesus (PBUH)). True

- Muslims believe in the miraculous birth of Prophet Jesus (PBUH). True

- The Holy Quran encourages violence. Define violence, is defence violence? If so then yes.

- The largest Muslim population is in Indonesia and not the Middle East. Indonesia is a country, the middle east a region so...but irrelevant of this fact probably.

- Only 12% of the Muslim population is Arab. Probably true.

- Western women are converting to Islam in large numbers. 'in increasing numbers' would be a better description.

- Islam gives many rights to women . The first 'coded' legislation of womens right occur historically in the Quran.

- Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. It is the fastest reproducing, tho' evangelical christianity is contested to be the fastest 'growing' if one solely considers conversion.

- Suicide Bombings occur not because of Islam but because of political reasons. Hard one, I'd say it is political in part, but also from a feeling of desperation on the part of some muslims, who are prepared to gamble on the mercy of god for their left actions.

- Jihad means Holy War. Jihad means to strive in the path of Allah, firstly against one's own nature, but also against conscious enemies of the faith.

[AtheistAJ]

Originally Posted by flysky

- Islam gives many rights to women .

Define what you said just there. All genders and races get same treatment in US constitution. The constitution also allows everyone to worship whatever they want freely. However it does not allow religious standards to meddle in law because of the separation of church and state. So regardless of one's own religion, in democracy, rather than awarding themselves more rights, as those rights are pre-established in the government, by choosing to follow those certain religious standards they just deprive themselves of more "rights".

Western women are converting to Islam in large numbers.

Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world.

So I wouldn't believe that the first quote (if true) would have anything to do with those statistics (if true).

[Ardent Listener]

If this is all true, someone needs to tell some Muslims about a lot of it.

[flysky]

Originally Posted by AtheistAJ

Define what you said just there. All genders and races get same treatment in US constitution. The constitution also allows everyone to worship whatever they want freely. However it does not allow religious standards to meddle in law because of the separation of church and state. So regardless of one's own religion, in democracy, rather than awarding themselves more rights, as those rights are pre-established in the government, by choosing to follow those certain religious standards they just deprive themselves of more "rights".
So I wouldn't believe that the first quote (if true) would have anything to do with those statistics (if true).

My friend, when did women get their rights in the US constitution? (such as : voting, equal reward for equal work, expressing her opinon, etc.)

Here are some rights women are given in Islam (I have a long list, but I will only give you a few points.) After you read the points you can compare them with any constitution.

1. The RIGHT and duty to acquire education.
2. The RIGHT to have her own independent property.
3. The RIGHT to work [job or business] to earn money, which she keeps it.
4. The RIGHT to equal reward for equal deed and/or work.
5. The RIGHT to express her opinion.
6. The RIGHT to argue and/or advocate her cause or opinion to be heard.
7. The RIGHT to vote since 1,421 years.
8. The RIGHT to provisions from her husband for all her needs and more.
9. The RIGHT to negotiate marriage terms of her choice
etc
(YOU CAN THE WHOLE LIST FROM http://askmuslims.com/women.html)

As far as other quotes regarding Western Women converting to Islam, I can provide you with proof. I can also proove to you that Islam is the fastest growing religion. Let me know if you want the info. By the way, check out http://askmuslims.com (you will get lots of info and if you don't let me know.)

[flysky]

Originally Posted by Ardent Listener

If this is all true, someone needs to tell some Muslims about a lot of it.

I agree

[Jaiket]

Originally Posted by Ardent Listener

If this is all true, someone needs to tell some Muslims about a lot of it.

This is true. My ex-girlfriend's mother used to prattle about the liberty that women gain through Islam, before scurrying of to the kitchen for hours at a time and cleaning before work. Likewise my-ex was literally disowned for seeing a white, non-Muslim, outside marriage, while her male cousins shagged about with white girls all the time. I have good reason to believe that these attitudes prevail throughout the majority of the Arab Muslim community in Scotland. In my experience the women were fiesty but ultimately very submissive. Stories of quite vicious beating were common and few of them were 'allowed' to work any place other then the family owned business.

Then again I met some truly fine people in the Muslim community, one was a priest-type guy (molby or something) and he was a genuine saint, who followed his religion, well, religiously, and never bothered people with dogma, never forced the women to be inhibited, etc. Guess it's who you meet like any other religion.

[Dark_Waltz]

If they don't beleive in marrying white people why are they living here?
They should be deported and if asian women have so many rights why are they skulking behind their big hairy husbands all the time,
Ugh yuck

[flysky]

Originally Posted by Dark_Waltz

If they don't beleive in marrying white people why are they living here?
They should be deported and if asian women have so many rights why are they skulking behind their big hairy husbands all the time,
Ugh yuck

I am not getting your point my friend.

Holy Quran says:
People, We have created you from a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes that you might know one another. The noblest of you before Allah is the most righteous of you. Allah is the Knower, the Aware. (Chapter [49.13] )

The Prophet (peace be upon him) declared: "O people! You are all from Adam and Adam was made of dust. No Arab is to be preferred over a non-Arab except by virtue of his piety." He also said: "Allah does not look at your shapes or your colors but He looks at your hearts (intentions) and your deeds. Creatures are the dependants of Allah and the closest among them to Allah are indeed the most useful to His dependants."

"O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord Who created you from a single soul and from it created its mate and from them twain hath spread abroad a multitude of men and women.” (Chapter 4: 1)

[Jaiket]

Originally Posted by Dark_Waltz

If they don't beleive in marrying white people why are they living here?

To gain freedoms and prosperity not possible in Pakistan or Iran I believe. In order that they can raise their families in safety and comfort.

Originally Posted by Dark_Waltz

They should be deported and if asian women have so many rights why are they skulking behind their big hairy husbands all the time,
Ugh yuck

Firstly, what a shameless display of bigotry. Secondly because custom is difficult to change and culture sticks like glue no matter where people go. It takes time.