Is the Crucifix blasphemous? (Jesus, Earth, exodus, contradiction, doctrine)

[Victor]

Originally Posted by SoyLeche

It was in Peru, and the Catholic Church organized the carying of the image through the streets, along with building shines for the different images... take it for what it's worth. I don't claim to be an expert on the subject, but South America Catholicism seems quite a bit different from the Catholicism of the rest of the world.

I'm not sure what your objection to this is? Not unless you believe carrying graven images is a sin?

~Victor

[spacemonkey]

Originally Posted by Victor

The example you stated would be a "no no" in Catholic teaching. Read Do Catholics Worship Statues?

This should clear some things up.

~Victor

I see alot of flaws in the first few paragraphs of that link. First, the Bible passages desciping God's "command" to make graven images were his directions for the Ark of the Covenant, not for the insides of a temple.

Who did you see worshiping graven images?

I would say the Catholic practice of using a rosary in order pray as worshipping a graven image. I have also seen Catholics kneel and pray at the feet of statues of the Virgin Mary.

[SoyLeche]

Originally Posted by Victor

I'm not sure what your objection to this is? Not unless you believe carrying graven images is a sin?

~Victor

That's why I asked for a definition of worship, because I would consider carying an image around the city on your shoulders while all the people chear to be worshiping the image.

[Victor]

Originally Posted by spacemonkey

I see alot of flaws in the first few paragraphs of that link. First, the Bible passages desciping God's "command" to make graven images were his directions for the Ark of the Covenant, not for the insides of a temple.

What about inside McDonalds?
Give me a break man. Your missing the point.

Originally Posted by spacemonkey

I would say the Catholic practice of using a rosary in order pray as worshipping a graven image. I have also seen Catholics kneel and pray at the feet of statues of the Virgin Mary.

Think what you want. Your not hear to understand. But to attack. I provided a link and I doubt you read it all.

~Victor

[Victor]

Originally Posted by SoyLeche

That's why I asked for a definition of worship, because I would consider carying an image around the city on your shoulders while all the people chear to be worshiping the image.

What about the quarter in your pocket?
Did you read both links I provided? I think you should read them and get back to me.

~Victor

[spacemonkey]

Think what you want. Your not hear to understand. But to attack. I provided a link and I doubt you read it all.

I did read the link, just because the CATHOLIC ANSWERS website says something doesn't mean thats the end of the debate. I seriously doubt a website titled Catholic Answers is going to have a article saying that Catholics are doing anything wong. My question comes from my own observations, not from blindly believing what I've been told to believe (both sides of my family are Catholic). It has always been my contention that the Catholic Church has been more about politics then the worshipping of God, and I believe that Catholics started using graven images to help convert Pagan people. So please quit insulting me because I don't accept blindly the same things you do.

[Victor]

Originally Posted by spacemonkey

I did read the link, just because the CATHOLIC ANSWERS website says something doesn't mean thats the end of the debate.

Correct, but if you can't even understand Catholic Answers there is nothing to debate.

Originally Posted by spacemonkey

I seriously doubt a website titled Catholic Answers is going to have a article saying that Catholics are doing anything wong.

Little do you know...

Originally Posted by spacemonkey

My question comes from my own observations, not from blindly believing what I've been told to believe (both sides of my family are Catholic).

Peachy, but this still doesn't gurantee understanding.

Originally Posted by spacemonkey

It has always been my contention that the Catholic Church has been more about politics then the worshipping of God,

That is becoming blantanly obvious by now...
Even if correct. It does no damage to my faith. Truth can come out of sinful and evil men..

Originally Posted by spacemonkey

and I believe that Catholics started using graven images to help convert Pagan people.

Your not that off here. There is some truth in this. Again, this does nothing to shake my faith if you read into why the Church did it.

Originally Posted by spacemonkey

So please quit insulting me because I don't accept blindly the same things you do.

For a second there I though you were insulting me..
Nonetheless, I have shown horrible charity and I apologize but please understand that you are blurting out statements based on your "obsevations" and aren't even varyfying them but calling them as "this is so". That won't fly here.

~Victor

[spacemonkey]

What about the quarter in your pocket?

1. No one worships George Washington as a God.
2. Nowhere in the Constitution does it state, "Thou shalt not carry graven images of dead presidents".

Apples and oranges my friend

[Victor]

Originally Posted by spacemonkey

1. No one worships George Washington as a God.
2. Nowhere in the Constitution does it sta