Who Invented The Trinity ? (Jesus, gospel, tradition, beliefs, disciples)

[Victor]

Originally Posted by jonny

You'd think that God would have wanted such an important concept included in the book. I stand by my beliefs that the concept of the trinity came from Greek philosphers and not the bible.

Good point. Thank God we a Church to guide us...
You would think that either early church writings or the bible would have clearly spelled out that some fellow Joseph Smith was going to restore the true Church. Quite easy to note, don't you think? The Trinity on the other hand is a matter of highly abstract, difficult philosophy. Which one to do you think is easier to note?

~Victor

[jonny]

Originally Posted by Victor

Good point. Thank God we a Church to guide us...
You would think that either early church writings or the bible would have clearly spelled out that some fellow Joseph Smith was going to restore the true Church. Quite easy to note, don't you think? The Trinity on the other hand is a matter of highly abstract, difficult philosophy. Which one to do you think is easier to note?

~Victor

Now Victor,

Do you really believe that the Catholic church would have included information detailing the restoration of the church in its scriptures?

[Victor]

Originally Posted by jonny

Now Victor,

Do you really believe that the Catholic church would have included information detailing the restoration of the church in its scriptures?

No details. Just one name would make a world of difference. Besides you forgot about the Bible.

~Victor

[nutshell]

Originally Posted by Victor

No details. Just one name would make a world of difference. Besides you forgot about the Bible.

~Victor

Well, in Ezekial, there is the prophesy of the Book of Mormon, but of course you'll have a different interpretation. That's what it all comes down to: interpretations. To an LDS there are plenty of references to the apostacy and restoration while to a Catholic there are none. One can only know the truth through revelation.

By they way, here are the verses I was referring to from Ezekial. 37:15-17: " 15¶ The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying,

16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick•, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick• of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions:
17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one• in thine hand."

The Bible is the stick of Judah and the Book of Mormon is the stick of Ephraim.

[Victor]

Originally Posted by nutshell

Well, in Ezekial, there is the prophesy of the Book of Mormon, but of course you'll have a different interpretation. That's what it all comes down to: interpretations. To an LDS there are plenty of references to the apostacy and restoration while to a Catholic there are none. One can only know the truth through revelation.

By they way, here are the verses I was referring to from Ezekial. 37:15-17: " 15¶ The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying,

16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick•, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick• of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions:
17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one• in thine hand."

The Bible is the stick of Judah and the Book of Mormon is the stick of Ephraim.

Your right. Interpretation is everything. One would think God would of thought of a solution for us through all time..

~Victor

[jonny]

Originally Posted by Victor

Your right. Interpretation is everything. One would think God would of thought of a solution for us through all time..

~Victor

Yeah. It would have been cool if he'd sent another prophet to sort everything out before his second coming, but I digress.

[Victor]

Originally Posted by jonny

Yeah. It would have been cool if he'd sent another prophet to sort everything out before his second coming, but I digress.

As I said "a solution for us through all time". A prophet won't accomplish that.

~Victor

[nutshell]

Originally Posted by Victor

As I said "a solution for us through all time". A prophet won't accomplish that.

~Victor

Then what do you think will accomplish that\\?