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Old 10-21-2005, 11:42 AM
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Does the institution of marriage come from God or from humans?

I would argue that it comes from humans. But what do you think?

(I've started this thread here because the question was getting us off topic in another thread)
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Old 10-21-2005, 11:45 AM
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Sunstone, please clarify and tell me if you ONLY see marriage as a ceremonial thing?

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Old 10-21-2005, 11:53 AM
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Sunstone, please clarify and tell me if you ONLY see marriage as a ceremonial thing?

~Victor
No. I don't see marriage as ONLY a ceremonial thing. I think the underlying basis for the behavior of marrying is a genetic predisposition to it that evolved in our species. Specific marriage customs vary from society to society, but all societies have some form of marriage. That is to say, our species pair bonds.
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I don't understand how someone can say "Marriage is god given" and then allow people who follow other gods to get married...

Could someone explain that to me please?

If you believe marriage is god given, you more than likely believe marriage was given by your god. So therefore, you should technically be against any marriage that is not done with your gods permission... Or did I miss something here?
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I don't understand how someone can say "Marriage is god given" and then allow people who follow other gods to get married...

Could someone explain that to me please?

If you believe marriage is god given, you more than likely believe marriage was given by your god. So therefore, you should technically be against any marriage that is not done with your gods permission... Or did I miss something here?
It's not about permission but about qualities and definitions of that make marriage. That should answer your questions.

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No. I don't see marriage as ONLY a ceremonial thing. I think the underlying basis for the behavior of marrying is a genetic predisposition to it that evolved in our species. Specific marriage customs vary from society to society, but all societies have some form of marriage. That is to say, our species pair bonds.
From a genetic predisposition point of view what is the advantage of homosexuality then? I'm all ears.

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Does anyone disagree with my thesis that marriage is fundamentally grounded in human nature, rather than in the dictate of God?
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