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Old 08-21-2004, 12:20 AM
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Hmm...I don't like the idea of the universe/particles having always existed (I dislike the idea with God as well, but I suppose I can forgive it more in supernatural beings). A universe without a beginning is a universe without an answer, if that makes sense. Eh, my little human brain is right boggled, no matter what. I kinda like the Terry Pratchett explaination, though: "In the beginning, there was nothing, which exploded."

And is the universe infinite? As I recall, there seems to be evidence it's not...
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Old 08-21-2004, 08:00 AM
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After reading more into "something came from nothing" thread I have questions about these "particles" like are they everywhere? invisible? And what is their habitat? I mean do they inhabiteth eternity? The Bible teaches that God is so incredibly big, invisible. I Kings 8:27: But will God indeed dwell on the earth? behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain thee.... It's as if God is so large the entire universe is expanding to contain Him.
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Old 08-21-2004, 09:12 AM
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I have to agree with Mr_Spinkes on this one. He pretty much said everything I wanted to say. One more thing, though; as far as I can tell, you do not like the idea that "something came from nothing" because, although some us can THINK about the idea of nothing, none of us have been able to perceive it; in our human perception, EVERYTHING has a cause, which has a cause, which has a cause... and so on and so forth forever. What I don't understand is why, being uncomfortable with the notion that the universe came from nothing, you are able to be attracted to the idea of a God (which, as you said yourself, CAME FROM NOTHING). And, even if you truly DO believe in a God now, you therefore have to admit that everything came from nothing... because God came from nothing and everything came from God.... therefore, at the very start of the line, you have nothing.

Just some rambling thoughts... sorry if they're not too coherent; it is early =P
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I have to agree with Mr_Spinkes on this one. He pretty much said everything I wanted to say. One more thing, though; as far as I can tell, you do not like the idea that "something came from nothing" because, although some us can THINK about the idea of nothing, none of us have been able to perceive it; in our human perception, EVERYTHING has a cause, which has a cause, which has a cause... and so on and so forth forever. What I don't understand is why, being uncomfortable with the notion that the universe came from nothing, you are able to be attracted to the idea of a God (which, as you said yourself, CAME FROM NOTHING). And, even if you truly DO believe in a God now, you therefore have to admit that everything came from nothing... because God came from nothing and everything came from God.... therefore, at the very start of the line, you have nothing.

Just some rambling thoughts... sorry if they're not too coherent; it is early =P
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Unless, God is the empty spaces. The largest part of an atom is empty space.
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Unless, God is the empty spaces. The largest part of an atom is empty space.
I think they already proved it wasn't empty but rather really small nano particles.
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Old 08-21-2004, 10:22 AM
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The spaces between the particles is quanta carrying forces. God could be the space between the particles.
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wait and these spaces are omnipotent?
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Old 08-21-2004, 10:29 AM
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I thought it was proven in another thread that Mr. Sprinkles was god.......

..... or maybe I had too much communion wine this morning........

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Old 08-21-2004, 10:31 AM
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That is like saying, "God is really the sun. Look at the sun; it exists! Science knows all about it! Therefore God exists, and science knows all about It!"

As I have been told many times, why can't those empty spaces just be that... empty space? Why must we rename them and apply an entire set of extra unprovable characteristics (gender, personality, thought, Word, etc) to them? And, frankly, why would we want to do so? The fact that the universe is primarily empty space despite the illusion of solidarity is amazing/mysterious/awesome enough on its own... what real benefit is there in deciding this space is God?
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