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Old 08-17-2004, 08:12 PM
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What is "Heaven" and what is "Hell"?

Hell
It’s hard to talk about Hell in today’s world. People don’t want to think about judgment and eternal punishment, they find the thought repulsive, they don’t like it, so they choose not to believe it. But it’s not as easy as that. No one can make a thing untrue simply by determining not to believe it. The Bible teaches that there is a literal place called Hell, a place burning with fire and brimstone.

Heaven
There are two descriptions of Heaven, in the book of Revelation. The first is early in the book where John is given a view into Heaven before the judgment of the Earth, and the second is near the end of Revelation as a description of the new Jerusalem is given. Heaven is described as a place of “ laughter without tears”, “life without death” and “ pleasure without pain”.


But what about those who grew up in another religion and do not believe in Jesus Christ. They may not of commited any sins in their lifetime but do not accept Jesus as their lord. Do they still get sent to Hell or do they get sent to heaven. In the bible it also says that god will grant forgiveness if one asks for it. Does that mean anyone can commit any ammount of sins ask for forgiveness and be let into heaven?
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Old 08-17-2004, 08:18 PM
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Hell is not a place with fire and brimstone. That's the Catholics and the Baptists trying to scare you into being a good boy. Hell is merely a state of seperation from God. The burning mentioned in the Bible is the guilt that will riddle the unfortunate soul that actually experiences that state.

Heaven is like the garden of Eden. We will be resurrected beings that will have families and enjoy eternal progression with our loved ones.

No one can be saved or condemned in ignorance. Every soul that has walked the earth will hear about the Gospel at some point (if not here then in the spirit world). They will make their own decisions based on that knowledge and reap the benefits or consequences based on those informed decisions.
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Old 08-17-2004, 08:23 PM
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Hell a mere seperation from god? Are we not seperated from god now?
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Old 08-17-2004, 08:33 PM
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Dan, if you read the Bible, hell is described as having worms- what is your interpretation of that? And no where in the Bible is there a description of the appearance of heaven as being the garden of Eden. And Drewstorm, there is not a single person who has not committed a sin save for Jesus Christ. Look it up: Romans 3:10. No one can possibly keep the whole law, and if you break one teensy bit of it you are not worthy and have broken the whole thing: Romans 2:12.

And no, we are not separated from God on Earth.

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Old 08-17-2004, 08:33 PM
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Just want to add: another term for 'Hell' is 'The Lake of Fire'.
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Look it up: Romans 3:10. No one can possibly keep the whole law, and if you break one teensy bit of it you are not worthy and have broken the whole thing: Romans 2:12.
Does it really say "teensy bit"? Heheheh
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Old 08-17-2004, 08:37 PM
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Sheesh Bryan, paraphrasing. They can turn pages to see the exact quote
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Old 08-17-2004, 08:40 PM
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yup Revelation 20:14 "and death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death."
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I know, Keevelish. It was just an honest question. It just amused me if the Scripture put it that way. No harsh feelings.
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Dan, if you read the Bible, hell is described as having worms- what is your interpretation of that?
Worms?
Revelation 9:2-3 says “When he opened the Abyss smoke ran from it like the smoke of a gigantic furnace. The Sun and the Sky were darkened by the smoke of the Abyss. And out of the smoke locusts came down upon the earth and were given the power like that of scorpions of the Earth.” Revelation 9:10 says “They had tails and stings like scorpions, and in there tails had the power to torment people for five months”. More of scorpians then worms....
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And no, we are not separated from God on Earth.
How are we not seperated from God if being with God is in heaven?
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