Karma vs. Forgiveness (Jesus, Moses, Earth, Torah, gospel)

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Peace be to you all,

This is my first post here.
I understand this is the place of debates. Yet, my purpose is not to debate. I will be posting things for people to think about and mybe debate amongst themselves. I hope you enjoy, and if you do not, please do tell and I shall refrain.

The Law of Karma vs. the Law of Atonement
Mercy & Forgiveness under Trial of Fair Judgment

Once upon a chiming story,
One full of mystery and fathomable glory,
Came a man from a Hindu family.
He saw a Christian missionary,
Screaming about forgiveness and mercy,
The faith of the crucified Christ.

Up to him the Hindu came,
Asked him without any shame
If the Christian folk believed in the same
A G-d Who in judgment is fair in the game
We call life that we are yet to determine
Its secret, goal, and aim.

“Indeed,” replied the Christian missionary,
“G-d is just and fair most definitely
Who forgives those who transgress from the way
Of blessed Christ, the Word of Mystery.”
“Behold the blood of Christ,” he said,
“Forgives your sins if you accept.”

“How is this fair?”
Said the Hindu man, with an eyeing stare.
“How then if I killed a man in cold blood,
How will G-d forgive my sin?” He said,
“That is neither just nor fair.
I need to be punished for the sin I declare.”

The Hindu man spoke of Karma
The Law that is stated in the Dharma
The Law of justice and fair plea
The Divine Law that in nature we see
As you do so shall it be done unto thee
This is the Divine Law of impartiality.

The Christian missionary held his voice up high
Chanting the name of G-d with a sigh
“True Your mercy passes us by
But most people accept not to receive
The gift of forgiveness granted to those who believe
The way of the crucified Christ.”

The Law of Karma is always a must
For G-d to be fair and just
When judging the people’s deeds
In any faith and people’s creeds
How can those who believe in fairness
Also believe in that is called forgiveness?

The Christian and Hindu debate
Lasted long until it was late
Until a young dame
Out of the wilderness came
She said, “This is my destiny and fate
That I come to see you two tonight.”

You both speak of splendid doctrine
That no one on Earth can claim to be mine
For it is revealed by the Divine
A great wonder and marvelous sign
Constructed by a miraculous design
That always moves in parallel line.

“You both say that G-d is just
For that, the Law of Karma is a must.
Written in the Torah of Moses
Life for life, eye for an eye
Tooth for tooth, wound for wound
O Christian, what is your reply?”

“Truly, truly, this is the Law of Moses.”
With tears dropping like dew on roses,
“This is the Law of Karma
That is stated in the Dharma
But came to us the Law of Christ
Changing the Law to Forgiving light”

“Is G-d no more just?”
The Hindu man shouted with a thrust.
“Hush,” said the young dame.
“You are all blind to the One and the same.
The Divine Law of Karma stands still.
For Christ did not come to change but to fulfill.”

“This is the Law of Karma
That is stated in the Dharma
As you do unto others shall it be done unto you
The Law of justice and fairness
Both mercy and forgiveness.
Christ spoke of the same Karma.”

“How is forgiveness just?
Even if your deed is small as dust,
You will be repaid according to your deed
In any faith and people’s creed,
For you sow from your planted seed,
For the Law of Karma is a must.”

“Christ, born from the Virgin Mother,
Asked people to forgive one another.
If you forgive everything and everyone,
Is it not fair that you are also forgiven?
This is the Law of the Christian Gospel
Contradicting not Karma of the Hindu Temple.”

“Forgive and you shall be forgiven.
Take the sins of the people that they may go to Heaven,
And it is your bad karma that shall be taken.
Lose your life for everyone,
And you shall find life before anyone.
This is the Law of Karma, full of Mercy and Compassion.”

“Can you now see O you who debate
That you are blind to the dogmas you state?
You think that two contradict one another.
Allow reality to permeate
This world, with the material bait.
Be not caught by the webs of illusion.”

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[Ardhanariswar]

wow thats pretty good. but karma isnt eye for an eye. if someone takes our eyes out, its thier bad. if we take their eyes out, its our bad. if they forgive me, its thier good, if i forgive them, its my good.
it works both ways. the only differences that people think they can declare thier devotion to Jesus and be free from all sin, and others (like me) believe that if you practice what jesus says (the same as buddha, krishna and others say) you can build up good karma to negate the bad.

it all comes down to the same thing. when you believe in jesus and practice what he says, you are essentially doing good to negate the bad that will come back to you.

so we are all fine and dandy.

what you CANNOT do is say "i love jesus" and kill and sin wherever you like. thats a no no. also doing evil and proclaiming "i believe in jesus" and then sitting idly will not mean that you are *forgiven* or that your bad karma is gone. you must work at it. practice jesus (buddha's and krishna's and God's OR rightiousness and fuzziness) teachings in your life. voila. salvation.