Is the Bible inspired? (Jesus, gospel, translation, myths, experience)

[Irenicas]

How can you tell what God intended (not that he exists, but... we'll go with it for a bit, ok)? As pointed out, the Bible means different things on different levels, there is no single meaning. You could not keep it the same book and make it simplistic. If you want simplicity I suggest the Hungry Caterpillar (though, the hierarchal nature of the book... etc, etc.).

Basically, you cannot have any message that just means what the original person intended it to mean. You think all those poets expected classes of high school kids to be discussing whether is was a metaphor for existence or not? It probably was jsut about daffodils.

Also, God MAY have dictated the bible, or inspired it, or whatever, or he may not, but regardless it was actually written by humans. He didn't fit any easy to read intention in it, because he didn't write it.

Oh, and the reason it's always a big seller - there are millions of people indoctrinated by it from birth.

[iwilliam]

The bible was plagurized from books such as the egyptian book of the dead,anuma elish, and the ancient sumerian doctrine called the gilgamesh epics. There is actually a flood story in each the text mentioned above!! Proof is in the pudding.

[Surrealgurl]

Yes iwilliam, my point exactly.
What is the point of God inspiring people to write the Bible in the first place, and then letting other people translate it incorrectly? It doesn't seem consistent to me. Anybody else?

[Surrealgurl]

I never said I knew what God intended. It seems as if there is no way to know for sure what God intended, that's probably why there are so many different Christian denominations out there, all believing they have the correct interpretation.

Yes I agree Irenicas, a lot of people believe it is the word of God because they are indoctrinated at birth.

[Jayhawker Soule]

Originally Posted by Rex_Admin

Being that is your opinion that is fine. But you can't argue that the bible does have historical facts that we can prove with science today?

The Wizard of Oz and the Planet of the Apes "have historical facts that we can prove with science today", as does most (if not all) fable, legend, and folklore. So what? Suggest one item of theological significance, one item of probative value, that exemplifies one of these "historical facts that we can prove with science today".

[Rex]

Originally Posted by Deut. 32.8

The Wizard of Oz and the Planet of the Apes "have historical facts that we can prove with science today", as does most (if not all) fable, legend, and folklore. So what? Suggest one item of theological significance, one item of probative value, that exemplifies one of these "historical facts that we can prove with science today".

Turning the debate around doesn't make you right. I never argued the theological significance, I just generally stated that the bible has some historical facts (i.e. places on a map, people, etc).

Give me any theological book and we can debate whether it has proven as fact or not but the point is you can' t say something is all myths and folklore when it is not.

[Jayhawker Soule]

Originally Posted by Rex_Admin

Turning the debate around doesn't make you right.

What do you think we're debating?

Originally Posted by Rex_Admin

I never argued the theological significance, I just generally stated that the bible has some historical facts (i.e. places on a map, people, etc).

Well, then, thank you for sharing. It looked very much like you were making a counterposed assertion, but if your intent was simply to offer something of no theological significance, then so be it.

[Rex]

Originally Posted by Deut. 32.8

What do you think we're debating?

I forgot!

[Jayhawker Soule]

Forgive me, but that impresses me as either irresponsible or disingenuous. If you had a point, I would much prefer that you take responsibility for it and develop it. If not, it's unclear to me why a forum administrator would spam a thread.

Tell me, Rex_Admin, do you think the Bible "inspired" and, if so, why?

[Bright-ness' Shadow]

Originally Posted by Rex_Admin

Turning the debate around doesn't make you right. I never argued the theological significance, I just generally stated that the bible has some historical facts (i.e. places on a map, people, etc).

Give me any theological book and we can debate whether it has proven as fact or not but the point is you can' t say something is all myths and folklore when it is not.

I agree with Rex. If nothing else, the bible offers a glimpse into the "life and times" of the social structure of the people. It portrays the science of the times (which is as relevant to today as last years "picks" at the Kentucky Derby) but it is history

-pah-