does god exist? (Jesus, ritual, beliefs, church, bible)

[scratch]

If god exists then who created god. Hasnt science proven that good doesn't exist. I don't know but personally a god may exist but most religion is like believing in santa claus. Pure fear fulled bull. Christianity bases there whole belief on fear. And anglican church was based on henry the 8th wanting to marry many wives and kill them.

The universe is so so so so big how can one "supreme being" give a crap about this tiny plane. it's about one probably in 42 billion trillion trillion trillion and so on and so on planets. I think theres a bit too much fear mongering in christianity and other christians try to force it on me please stop.

[Jayhawker Soule]

And a cheery "Good morning! to you as well.

[Ceridwen018]

Haha, scratch--I agree. Given all that then, what do you conclude about god?

[(Q)]

Hasnt science proven that good doesn't exist.

Is that rhetorical?

Science has not proven gods don't exist. Religion has not proven gods do exist.

Science has simply shown that the universe and everything in it can exist without the need for gods.

[dan]

I don't know if I agree with that Q. Despite the progress that has been made, there are still innumerable holes in the theory. Science has shown that they can postulate an alternate source of life, but it falls far short of proving anything.

If God does exist He will not allow science to prove or disprove His existence. That would completely undermine the role of faith in religion. Science will never prove or disprove His existence, they will only offer up other possibilities that can never be proven.

[scratch]

personally i have no religious beliefs, sure i belive that theres something more to this life but not in any main form just in my own personal view of this world.

AS for that god won't let science prove that he exists. That's why I think most religions like christianity are full of it. Becasuse christianty and the bible and all that contradicts itself too much. They seem like the were made for a way of controlling people and getting rich people to get the poor to do what they want.

I believe that jesus was a real person but i don't believe he had any affiliation with anything like god. Just that he was some guy trying to do something nice and he got misunderstood and all his doings got distorted. I definitly don't hold jesus as a spritual inspirational person just a person that was there.

I don't like when i was going to my course, people on the main streets threating me with chrisitanity and pamphlets.

Cheer, Cheer.

[(Q)]

Science will never prove or disprove His existence

Neither will religion.

they will only offer up other possibilities that can never be proven.

So definitive, are we?

The "other possibilities" are without the need for gods. Perhaps you're apprehensions are merely a fear of a tumbling house of cards?

[Ceridwen018]

dan,

You would rather put your faith into a religious 'theory' with no evidence because it is accepted as fact by the church, rather than in several possible scientific theories which are backed by evidence and which have the potential of gaining more evidence?

This seems like you're accepting religious theories because they don't ever change and aren't complicated, therefore making them 'steadfast and reliable', if not true. Personally, I don't mind the 'insecurity' brought on by ever-changing scientific ideas, because at least I know I'm looking in the right place and might one day find the real truth.

[Irenicas]

I'm going to fall back on an argument one of my friends often uses in these situations:

"imagine a cactus. It's right in front of you, on top of your computer screen. Yes, you can't see it, that's because it's invisible, and you can't sense it in any other way either. But it might still be there. We have no evidence against its presence, just as we have no (solid) evidence FOR its presence.
So we have this cactus. Now imagine a giant cactus that covers the entire earth, has absolute control over us all, and knows everything. This is also invisible, and cannot be sensed. You got that image in your head?
Then pass me the marujuana before it goes out."

lol

[Linus]

Originally Posted by scratch

If god exists then who created god.

I believe that if someone created God then you would have to believe that someone created that being. Then in turn someone would have to have created that being. And then someone would have created that, and so on. The reasoning is seems illogical to me.

Originally Posted by scratch

Hasnt science proven that good doesn't exist.

I don't believe that science has proven anything because God is above science. Remember that those who believe in God believe that He is all powerfull. If He doesn't want science to detect Him, then it won't.

Originally Posted by scratch

I don't know but personally a god may exist but most religion is like believing in santa claus. Pure fear fulled bull. Christianity bases there whole belief on fear.

Christianity is wholly based on fear. Where is the fear in loving God and appreciating His goodness, grace, and mercy toward us?

Originally Posted by scratch

And anglican church was based on henry the 8th wanting to marry many wives and kill them.

Then Henry VIII's faith was severely misplaced. And that's why I do not agree with the Church Of England

Originally Posted by scratch

The universe is so so so so big how can one "supreme being" give a crap about this tiny plane. it's about one probably in 42 billion trillion trillion trillion and so on and so on planets.

Yes but God created it and he cares for ALL of His creations. The Universe is big, But God created it and He is in control of it.