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Old 06-28-2005, 12:52 PM
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Default Untranslated fourth word of the Bible

Berishis bara elohim et. In the beginning God created _________! He created what?
Aleph Tav (0853) Strongs Basically untranslated!

Well John translated it in Revelations, Re 21:6 And He said to me, "It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts.
Re 22:13 "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last."

Alpha and the Omega in Hebrew is Aleph Tav. The beginning and the end.
Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
In the beginning God created _________!In the beginning God created Jesus/Word !
The Word of God, whereby the narrative of John 1:1-4
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Old 06-28-2005, 01:27 PM
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Berishis bara elohim et. In the beginning God created _________! He created what?
Aleph Tav (0853) Strongs Basically untranslated!
Oh, my - not untranslated!

Whatever could it mean? Hopefully Ronald will be able to use his magic decoder ring to explicate the meaning of this (dare I say it again?) untranslated word - a meaning that has somehow escaped those uninspired sinners who gave us the many translations currently available. And this will be very, very good since the same untranslated word also appears in ...
  • Genesis 1:4, 4:1, 5:22, 14:4, 19:13, 37:23, 47:23
  • Exodus 18:20
  • Leviticus 6:4, 14:40
  • Judges 11:27
  • Isaiah 1:4, 6:1, 7:12, 19:14
  • Zechariah 6:8
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In the beginning God created Jesus/Word !
Or not ...
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Old 06-28-2005, 02:26 PM
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You are right it appears and is untranslated in English in each of the verses.
Strongs, 853 appar. cont. from 226 in the demonstr. sense of enity; prop. self (but gen. used to point out more def. the object of a verb or prep,, even or namely):---{as such unrepresented in English}
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Old 06-28-2005, 03:19 PM
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Strongs, 853 appar. cont. from 226 in the demonstr. sense of enity; prop. self (but gen. used to point out more def. the object of a verb or prep,, even or namely):---{as such unrepresented in English}
Ah, all is clear.
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Ah, all is clear.
Please don't be so ignorant.

Do you truly believe that it is no more than a coincidence that 853-226 = 627, and that 627 BCE is the end of the reign of Ashurbanipal, King of Assyria, whose death two years later led inexorably to the rise of the evil Babylonian Empire and the destruction of the 1st Temple? Gnostic heretic!
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Old 06-28-2005, 06:50 PM
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Wait, what? The fourth word in "bereishit bara elohim et" is "et"...and isn't that just the particle that marks a direct object?
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im pretty sure that et has no meaning in hebrew
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im pretty sure that et has no meaning in hebrew
That's fair. After all, the OP has no meaning in Judaism.
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Old 06-29-2005, 12:51 AM
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Aleph to Tav is the protoplasm of the universe.
Exerpts from The Wisdom in the Hebrew Alphabet, by R' Michael Munk
Rabbi Dov Ber, The Magid of Mezritch, writes:
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Aleph to Tav is the protoplasm of the universe.
Exerpts from The Wisdom in the Hebrew Alphabet, by R' Michael Munk
Rabbi Dov Ber, The Magid of Mezritch, writes:
It is known in Kabbalistic literature that the letters of the Aleph-Beis were created first of all. Thereafter, by use of the letters , the Holy One , Blessed is He, created all the worlds. This is the hidden meaning of the first phrase in Torah, "In the beginning God created Aleph Tav"____ that is, God's first act was to create the letters from Aleph to Tav(Or Torah: see p. 35)

____ The Talmud states Abraham observed the Torah from Aleph to Tav.(Yoma 28b)

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Excerpt from the New Testament; Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the first-born of all creation;
1 ¶ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
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