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Old 08-18-2004, 06:16 PM
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hmm... thats what YOU believe, but i believe different. this debate is pointless.
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hmm... thats what YOU believe, but i believe different. this debate is pointless.
How absolutely true! And when you see my name in a discussion in your Hindu
pages, discussing thoughts from Hindu holy texts, you will see how pointless a debate really is!

That will never happen! And I say never, and mean it.
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ya... because many fundamentalists are closeminded.

i believe that its hard for anyone to worship God withought a form in thier mind. worship really works when the devotee uses an object to worship God through, aka a crucafix, statues of gods and goddesses, etc.

these symbolize aspects of One God.

in reality there are no *other gods*. they are all but ONE.
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ya... because many fundamentalists are closeminded.

i believe that its hard for anyone to worship God withought a form in thier mind. worship really works when the devotee uses an object to worship God through, aka a crucafix, statues of gods and goddesses, etc.

these symbolize aspects of One God.

in reality there are no *other gods*. they are all but ONE.
By what stretch of your imagination did you come up with this description of me?
Since when did the Way, become "Fundamental?"
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I consider myself a Christian Fundamentalist. I stick with GOD's Word as best I can and ask GOD for HIS understanding of what HE is saying. This is what I focus on. Satues, and shrines are merely someone elses OPINION & values. I go to the source. The further
from the source one gets the more polluted...
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No, there are no other gods.
2Corinthians 4:4
In their case the elohim(god) of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the esteem of the Messiah(Christ), who is the likeness of elohim(god[presumptiously the father]).

was 2co4:4 referring to something that does not exist?

ps82:6
I say, "You are elohim(gods), sons of the Most High, all of you;

this verse most clearly shows the true definition of elohim/el/eloah/ect. which is simply mighty one(s).the almighty often allowed his messengers(angels) to act on his behalf, judging or speaking for him, he even made moses elohim(god) to the pharoah.i believe that the 'no other elohim(gods) before/besides me' means that we should pay no mind to people or elohim w/e whom are not one with the father for if somebody is one with the father and yet is elohim(a god) then they are not besides or before him, they are as he is..read about the judges for more?...there are other elohim(gods), either false or true, but none are in everyway like the most high.

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...worship really works when the devotee uses an object to worship God through, aka a crucafix, statues of gods and goddesses, etc.

these symbolize aspects of One God...
this wouldn't be scriptural would it?does 'GOD' tell you to symbolize him or does he say exactly NOT TO DO THAT?

a crucifix(btw a stauros does not denote a cross),statue(such as that of zues, i mean peter, i mean zues, well you know the vatican better than i, which is it?), and other unscriptural practices are surely the images and marks of the beast we are warned so much of;note:revelations.


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Old 08-24-2004, 03:27 PM
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"By what stretch of your imagination did you come up with this description of me?
Since when did the Way, become "Fundamental?" "


aww, i didnt call you a fundamental. i didnt say ronald in my post...

" I go to the source. The further
from the source one gets the more polluted..."

the source is everywhere, a pure hearted devotee can find the God source in a poor begger, in a church, in a hindu shrine, anywhere.

'this wouldn't 'be scriptural would it?does 'GOD' tell you to symbolize him or does he say exactly NOT TO DO THAT?"

do what? worship Him in His numerous forms? why would He forbid that? people view God as buddha, krishna, jesus, nanek. on and on. these are all different forms of one God. i dont know why you people cannot see that. you people are too attached to the external material things in life. true happiness lies in what they say, and we live it and we gain happiness internally which outlives death.



crucifix(btw a stauros does not denote a cross),statue(such as that of zues, i mean peter, i mean zues, well you know the vatican better than i, which is it?), and other unscriptural practices are surely the images and marks of the beast we are warned so much of;note:revelations.

btw, the "beast" mentioned in revelation is the image of caesar. early christians were scared of using his name and preaching against the roman empire so they created the inmage of the beast.
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