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Old 03-04-2013, 08:28 PM
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No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.

Didn't Jesus(pbuh) came from a womb ? Remember the resurrection didn't occur yet according the story so how did Jesus(pbuh) come from heaven as the verse states?
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Jesus the man came from a womb. Yehoshua (Jesus) who is The Word came from heaven. So the physical man was the son of Mary. The spiritual person Yehoshua is the Son of God.
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Jesus the man came from a womb. Yehoshua (Jesus) who is The Word came from heaven. So the physical man was the son of Mary. The spiritual person Yehoshua is the Son of God.
Can you show me any distinction between the son of god and the son of man are you saying that there were two sons?
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Jesus the man came from a womb. Yehoshua (Jesus) who is The Word came from heaven. So the physical man was the son of Mary. The spiritual person Yehoshua is the Son of God.
So only Jesus has a soul? If the "spiritual person" came from heaven, and is the only one, am I purely physical?
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So only Jesus has a soul? If the "spiritual person" came from heaven, and is the only one, am I purely physical?
Spiritual person and The Word are not the same.
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Spiritual person and The Word are not the same.
Ah I see where my confusion was.
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Ah I see where my confusion was.
LOL do ya? All apples are fruit but not all fruit are apples, or something like that.
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Can you show me any distinction between the son of god and the son of man are you saying that there were two sons?
I am not saying there are two sons. I think I can not show you.

I can explain it a little. The Son of Man is the person of Yehoshua that other people know. The Son of God is the same person, but is the person God knows.
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I am not saying there are two sons. I think I can not show you.

I can explain it a little. The Son of Man is the person of Yehoshua that other people know. The Son of God is the same person, but is the person God knows.
So when did this Son of God came into the Son of man? If there is no scriptural basis for it aren't you just making things up? (with all respect)
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And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. John 1;14


But while he thought about these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take to you Mary your wife, for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit. And she will bring forth a Son, and you shall call His name Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins.” Matthew 1;20-21
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