Why Believe in Hell?

[URAVIP2ME]

Originally Posted by Shuddhasattva

That may possibly be a more biblically correct interpretation of hell, but it is not the popular belief, nor the popular Christian belief from whence it came.

It came Not from first-century Christianity, but from religious myths.
'Not the popular belief' because the clergy class often teach the non-biblical pagan religious myth hell of burning forever as Scripture.

Whereas Scripture teaches the dead know nothing just sleeping in death.
Ecc. 9v5; John 11vs11-14; Psalms 6v5; 13v 3; 115v17;146v4; Daniel 12vs 2,13

The Bible's hell [sheol] is temporary because God resurrected Jesus out of hell [Acts 2 vs 31,32], and Jesus has the keys to unlock the Bible's hell [Rev.1v18], and once everyone in hell [gravedom] is 'delivered up' meaning resurrected out of hell, then 'emptied-out hell' is cast vacant into a symbolic 'second death' of never existing ever again.
- Rev. 20 vs 13,14

[Me Myself]

edit: WRONG thread sorry xD

[ForeverFaithful]

Originally Posted by URAVIP2ME

It came Not from first-century Christianity, but from religious myths.
'Not the popular belief' because the clergy class often teach the non-biblical pagan religious myth hell of burning forever as Scripture.

Whereas Scripture teaches the dead know nothing just sleeping in death.
Ecc. 9v5; John 11vs11-14; Psalms 6v5; 13v 3; 115v17;146v4; Daniel 12vs 2,13

The Bible's hell [sheol] is temporary because God resurrected Jesus out of hell [Acts 2 vs 31,32], and Jesus has the keys to unlock the Bible's hell [Rev.1v18], and once everyone in hell [gravedom] is 'delivered up' meaning resurrected out of hell, then 'emptied-out hell' is cast vacant into a symbolic 'second death' of never existing ever again.
- Rev. 20 vs 13,14

Adventist or JW? I'm a former Adventist myself.

Daniel makes it clear the shame of those who are raised is everlasting, not a temporary shame.

Don't divorce scripture from the Church, give me one father or early Christian who believed in conditional immortality? Christ promised to guide His Church always, did He give up into the Second Century?

[Me Myself]

Originally Posted by ForeverFaithful

would someone who detests God enjoy spending eternity with Him? Seems like Hell to me

Of God is happiness, then no one detests God. Not truly.

If they pass an eternity with him, then eventually they´ll learn to like him even if they didn´t

[URAVIP2ME]

Daniel [12 v 2 B].... some to shame and everlasting contempt.

The 'everlasting contempt' is the 'everlasting punishment' of Matthew 25 v 46.
That 'everlasting punishment' is: 'everlasting destruction' -Psalm 92 v 7; 2nd Thess. 1 v 9.
The 'shame' brought upon the 'name of the wicked' is that their name will rot away.
-Proverbs 10 vs 7,30; 2 vs 21,22.

[jasonwill2]

I don't believe in Hell, as there is no need for it. We all die in the end, and if we have some guilt to face, or something to answer for, we must stare ourselves in the face, when on that abyss, and say "I must accept what I have done", and then kick it.

Now if your one of those daemons/gods that survived physical death, you can jolly well do whatever you please, just as long as some other bigger guy, or stupidity forbid, a human destroys you in your second life!

Also no Heaven either, if all they all go to heaven/hell, where do we get all these damn ghosts and daemons around everywhere?!

Originally Posted by Sir Doom

I believe that the afterlife will be exactly what each of us expects it to be. If your afterlife concept contains a Hell, then when you die, you'll have a chance to go there. Usually people who believe in Hell assign some type of moral code to the process of selection, and indeed flagrantly disregard these guidelines themselves as if they only apply to others. I assume these people will be in for a rude awakening when they arrive in their chosen afterlife. I can't be sure, naturally.

When I was younger, I always thought this would be the most fair. I figured that if I was god, I would judge people based on the standards, and hence religion, they set for themselves.

Originally Posted by ForeverFaithful

but ultimately I don't have to justify hell to a bunch of heathens, God said it, I believe it, that settles it

emphasis added. Oh, did someone call for a 100% legit Satanic band? Hail Satan! I am Heathen!


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[waitasec]

Originally Posted by ForeverFaithful

Another view is C.S. Lewis' you guys might want to look into instead of getting your theology from Westborogh Baptists

but ultimately I don't have to justify hell to a bunch of heathens, God said it, I believe it, that settles it

how do you know god said it?

[jasonwill2]

Originally Posted by waitasec

how do you know god said it?

Because he read it in the Christian Bible and it made him feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

That's basically what my fundy dad told me, something about discernment of the spirit. Just a bunch of words for subjective acceptance. Apparently although the mosaic law is broken because of Jesus, you can still infer what is right and wrong from Yahweh's character.

That, or he read some verse that may or may not actually support it. Oh wait this is about hell.

In that case he read it in the Bible and he thinks that counts as an actual deity coming down and talking to you. Which presents the problem, is the Christian Bible infallible and really his word? Is it really endorsed by him, and inspired by him?

[URAVIP2ME]

Originally Posted by jasonwill2

I don't believe in Hell, as there is no need for it. We all die in the end,

Do the humble 'sheep' of Matthew [25 vs 31,32, 46] die in the end, or do they continue to live right into the start of Jesus 1000-year reign over earth with the prospect of living forever on a paradisaic earth ?

According to Scripture dead Jesus was in hell.
If there where no 'biblical hell' [sheol] Jesus could not have gone to hell until God resurrected Jesus out of hell [ Acts 2 vs 27,31,32; Psalm 16 v 10]

There is a need for the Bible's hell [sheol], because the Bible's hell is just the common grave of mankind where the dead sleep in death until resurrected.
[Ecc. 9 v 5; Psalms 6 v 5; 13 v 3; 115 v 17; 146 v 4; John 11 vs 11-14]
Some resurrected to heaven [Rev. 20 v 6], and the majority of mankind [John 3 v 13] resurrected out of hell [gravedom] back to life on a paradisaic earth during Jesus 1000-year reign over earth.

Then, the Bible's hell is going to be cast empty into a symbolic second death.
- Rev. 20 vs 13,14.

[Heathen Hammer]

Originally Posted by jasonwill2

emphasis added. Oh, did someone call for a 100% legit Satanic band? Hail Satan! I am Heathen!


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You're not a Heathen, mate, you're a Satan worshipper. Heathens follow the Gods of the Northern Europeans. Pssh, don't misdirect the Christians, they have enough problems with words as it is. ;P