Why the soul doesn't exist (choices, choice, experience, bless)

[Scott1]

DC,

Although this "21 grams" talk is quite entertaining .... I thought I would add my two cents:

I believe the soul to be the God given, immortal, spiritual principle in man.

I can elaborate if you'd like.

Scott

[anami]

Originally Posted by SOGFPP

DC,

Although this "21 grams" talk is quite entertaining .... I thought I would add my two cents:

I believe the soul to be the God given, immortal, spiritual principle in man.

I can elaborate if you'd like.

Scott

The 21 grams theory be used to say that is a perfectly valid way of saying it.

[DC85]

Originally Posted by SOGFPP

DC,

Although this "21 grams" talk is quite entertaining .... I thought I would add my two cents:

I believe the soul to be the God given, immortal, spiritual principle in man.

I can elaborate if you'd like.

Scott

Please do as I am getting no place with anumi... They keep claiming a soul but yet will not explain what it is. If it isn't the mind what is it? Thank you

[anami]

Originally Posted by DC85

Please do as I am getting no place with anumi... They keep claiming a soul but yet will not explain what it is. If it isn't the mind what is it? Thank you

Once again, the soul is a collection of quantum particles. Just like everything else.

[Scott1]

Originally Posted by DC85

Please do as I am getting no place with anumi... They keep claiming a soul but yet will not explain what it is. If it isn't the mind what is it? Thank you

The soul is the spiritual principle in man.... in is not (in my not-so-humble opinion) cognitive thought/mind/will whatever... it is much more:

The human person, created in the image of God, is a being at once corporeal and spiritual. The biblical account expresses this reality in symbolic language when it affirms that "then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being." Man, whole and entire, is therefore willed by God.

In Sacred Scripture the term "soul" often refers to human life or the entire human person. But "soul" also refers to the innermost aspect of man, that which is of greatest value in him, that by which he is most especially in God's image: "soul" signifies the spiritual principle in man.

The human body shares in the dignity of "the image of God": it is a human body precisely because it is animated by a spiritual soul, and it is the whole human person that is intended to become, in the body of Christ, a temple of the Spirit.

The unity of soul and body is so profound that one has to consider the soul to be the "form" of the body: i.e., it is because of its spiritual soul that the body made of matter becomes a living, human body; spirit and matter, in man, are not two natures united, but rather their union forms a single nature.

The Roman Catholic Church teaches that every spiritual soul is created immediately by God - it is not "produced" by the parents - and also that it is immortal: it does not perish when it separates from the body at death, and it will be reunited with the body at the final Resurrection.

Sometimes the soul is distinguished from the spirit: St. Paul for instance prays that God may sanctify his people "wholly", with "spirit and soul and body" kept sound and blameless at the Lord's coming. The Church teaches that this distinction does not introduce a duality into the soul. "Spirit" signifies that from creation man is ordered to a supernatural end and that his soul can gratuitously be raised beyond all it deserves to communion with God.

The spiritual tradition of the Church also emphasizes the heart, in the biblical sense of the depths of one's being, where the person decides for or against God.


Hope this helps,
Scott

[DC85]

it is animated by a spiritual soul,

It is animated by brain chemical reactions and Electrical this is proven... We can even control this to a degree. I don't fully understand what you’re saying it is. If it isn't my mind why should I be concerned what happens to it? After all if I lose my mind I'm not myself anymore... I need to know what purpose it serves other wise I can’t even conclude it is even possible. Don't get me wrong I was raised Catholic... I just don't understand sorry.

[Jaiket]

Originally Posted by anami

Once again, the soul is a collection of quantum particles. Just like everything else.

I may be wrong, but why does this 'soul' continue to avoid detection?

Secondly, what reason do you have to believe this?

[DC85]

Originally Posted by anami

Once again, the soul is a collection of quantum particles. Just like everything else.

But what purpose would it serve to me now or later? You seem to be telling me it is electrical currents in other posts... Does that mean I should concerned where the power in the double A batteries I used for my CD player went?

Here is the question

WHAT DOES THE SOUL DO? I want to know what you think it does.

[Stick of Joseph]

Originally Posted by DC85

But what purpose would it serve to me now or later? You seem to be telling me it is electrical currents in other posts... Does that mean I should concerned where the power in the double A batteries I used for my CD player went?

Here is the question

WHAT DOES THE SOUL DO? I want to know what you think it does.

I dont have a lot of knowledge on the subject, heck I am only 18 Ive got a lot to learn, but I have an idea.
My spirit was with God and made by God it is my communication to God. God influence comes to my spirit when a choice is to be made. My spirit knows what is right, thus giving me a concience. I then have a choice to choose what is right and wrong.

I also believe the spirit is what keeps the body alive, not through temperal ways, but spiritual. God created spirits without bodies, we are here on earth to obtain bodies. Together the body and the spirit make a soul. When Christ died his spirit left for three days. When he was reserrected his spirit entered the body again, how else was he to eat with his apostles. He became a reserrected soul in perfection and was the first to do it.
To answer your question, it is not what the soul does but what the soul is. It is the combination of the spirit and the body that defines us.

....In memory of our God, our religion, and freedom, and our peace, our wives, and our children.... -Moroni

[EnhancedSpirit]

Originally Posted by DC85

so far we have established what the soul isn’t

my Ideas

My emotions

My Personality

My sense of being

So the soul has nothing to do with my mind?

Wrong. These things plus 'these things' from all your lives is your soul. Your mind only deals with this lifetime. And when your body dies, this new life experience will be added to all your other ones.