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Old 03-19-2012, 04:25 AM
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Greetings folks:

Was your God ever happy just by herself without any universe or souls or pain or evil or pleasure or Hitler or earthquakes, etc. etc. to worry about?

If yes, why did she not just remain quiet by herself, all blissful, with no unsatisfied need?

Why did she have to engage in creation? Looks like your God is a lonely God who wants company, yes? Why worship an insecure God that cannot just be by herself?
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Old 03-19-2012, 04:34 AM
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Greetings folks:

Was your God ever happy just by herself without any universe or souls or pain or evil or pleasure or Hitler or earthquakes, etc. etc. to worry about?

If yes, why did she not just remain quiet by herself, all blissful, with no unsatisfied need?

Why did she have to engage in creation? Looks like your God is a lonely God who wants company, yes? Why worship an insecure God that cannot just be by herself?
maybe a deist gods exist thats a scientist and we are just an experiment
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Old 03-19-2012, 04:46 AM
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This is one of the fundamental reasons why I ended up rejecting the idea of a personal creator god. All religions that teach this form of god, all claim that one of god's characteristics, or part of it's nature, is that it's perfect. However, if a being is perfect, it's not lacking in anything. But, the very fact that said deity created, shows a lack of some thing, and therefore, not perfect. It was missing something that it needed to create. Also, a perfect deity could not, by nature, created imperfection, and yet, it doesn't take alot to realize that this world is imperfect. So, I don't seen any reason to accept the idea of a personal creator god, as taught primarily by the Abrahamic religions. But like iti_oj said, this doesn't discount a deistic view of god.
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Old 03-19-2012, 05:07 AM
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maybe a deist gods exist thats a scientist and we are just an experiment
Does this scientist then send infidels to eternal hellfire?
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Old 03-19-2012, 05:10 AM
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Indeed.

It would be interesting how theists respond...

I am aware that certain Abrahamic Gods, Allah, for instance, created for us to worship her. I already know that and our Muslim commentators may please refrain from quoting what I already know.

The question is why did Allah need to be worshipped?
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Friend robo,

Who is this *God* you speaking of??

*God* is a concept developed by humans for an understanding.
Till one reaches to THAT understanding; the concept is not clear.
Each one has to reach to THAT understanding himself/herself.

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Friend robo,

Who is this *God* you speaking of??
Dear Friend zenzero:

I dont know. There are many claimants to the throne of the "one true God".

As a student of philosophy of religion I just find that a God that was completely alone by herself at some point in time before creation would just continue in that state forever.

The only other option left for the theist is that God and the universe are co-eternal. They always were.

Creation never happened.
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God never created souls according to my religion. Souls were never created and can never be destroyed. They also represent a part of God that loves drama and thus here we areon this stage, playing the big drama of life.
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As a student of philosophy of religion ...
Of course you are.

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... I just find that a God that was completely alone by herself at some point in time before creation would just continue in that state forever.
And you deep understanding of preternatural agency comes from where?
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Old 03-19-2012, 05:55 AM
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God never created souls according to my religion. Souls were never created and can never be destroyed. They also represent a part of God that loves drama and thus here we areon this stage, playing the big drama of life.
Ok. As I said earlier, this seems the only plausible way out...

So, your God is not a creator God then.

Why does she not grant salvation to everyone pronto? Why the delay?
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